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I'm sure if you read some posts on other threads you can find where others say that the AMD cards IMPROVE their performance over time. AMD is just slower with making the optimizations than nVidia.
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What are you running now?

If your going to be gaming at 1080p, either card will run most everything at decent rates. My personal opinion is the 480 will mature and end up being a better card than the 970. I might eat those words, but that is how I see it playing out.

EDIT: Or wait for the 1060 to hit and see what it offers.

All I was saying is with improved drivers the RX 480 will end up being a much better card in the long run. Of course now the issue that is being discussed is the PCiE slot power draw on the 480. It looks like that might be interesting to see how that plays out.

EDIT: Shows that AMD does actually improve over time: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Edited by Hequaqua - 6/30/16 at 7:17am
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Originally Posted by Hequaqua View Post

I'm sure if you read some posts on other threads you can find where others say that the AMD cards IMPROVE their performance over time. AMD is just slower with making the optimizations than nVidia.
All I was saying is with improved drivers the RX 480 will end up being a much better card in the long run. Of course now the issue that is being discussed is the PCiE slot power draw on the 480. It looks like that might be interesting to see how that plays out.

EDIT: Shows that AMD does actually improve over time: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The fact that AMD cards "mature better" than NVIDIA cards, isn't really a good thing, ya know. Getting performance improvement drivers two years after the card's release date is pretty jacked up in my opinion. To me, it either means a total lack of commitment to put the best product out with the best driver support possible, or complete incompetence. Neither is good.....
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The fact that AMD cards "mature better" than NVIDIA cards, isn't really a good thing, ya know. Getting performance improvement drivers two years after the card's release date is pretty jacked up in my opinion. To me, it either means a total lack of commitment to put the best product out with the best driver support possible, or complete incompetence. Neither is good.....

I agree...I was just stating that the cards do improve over time.....Maybe with this new software company they get better drivers out quicker. We have all seen how the nVidia drivers get worse with each release for the older cards, and that isn't a good thing either. Especially since they want top dollar.

I'm not loyal to either...they both have some good, and some bad.
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I like AMD....but I'm not going to buy a card now, and hope in 2 years it performs like it should have within 6 months of release..... /shrug
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I like AMD....but I'm not going to buy a card now, and hope in 2 years it performs like it should have within 6 months of release..... /shrug
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I like AMD....but I'm not going to buy a card now, and hope in 2 years it performs like it should have within 6 months of release..... /shrug

True.

But we aren't the ones that the RX480 is really aimed at. I was just saying that particular card will improve, and I think it will be perform better than the 970. I don't think it will take 2 years to get there though. I think as soon as the AIB's hit it might be just a bit ahead of the 970's. The cards at the moment are bottlenecked....because of power. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm content with my SLI set-up. I may get a big chip when they release, then again who knows. I don't play that many games really. Mostly BF4, and the 970's can handle that at 4k with great fps. I have no need to upgrade. smile.gif
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Not like you need it lol

I switch cards all the time....I still have a 290X that I'm messing with too. /shrug The classys will be 1080s via the step up queue inside of a month, so.... eh
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True.

But we aren't the ones that the RX480 is really aimed at. I was just saying that particular card will improve, and I think it will be perform better than the 970. I don't think it will take 2 years to get there though. I think as soon as the AIB's hit it might be just a bit ahead of the 970's. The cards at the moment are bottlenecked....because of power. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm content with my SLI set-up. I may get a big chip when they release, then again who knows. I don't play that many games really. Mostly BF4, and the 970's can handle that at 4k with great fps. I have no need to upgrade. smile.gif

Yeah...they're aimed more at the low / mid range budget market. They fit there quite nicely, but....I guess I was just hoping for a lot more out of AMD this go round than what we've gotten so far. It's like they've completely given up on competing at the enthusiast level. Sad...so sad.
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The RX 480 is a joke IMO.. It delivers the same performance as the 970 at the same power draw only at a lower cost. Soon Nvidia will lower the price for the 970 to compete better with the 480 and later they will release the 1060 that will perform a lot better at the same price or little higher..

I don't like AMD to be honest and its not because i am an Nvidia fanboy but look at the reverence cards from AMD and Nvidia.. I mean, its yet again an plastic cheapo box with an ridiculously loud cooler which doesn't quite deliver and it looks like something you can buy from a toy store.. AMD also has a big mouth and said that the RX 480 can compete to 500 dollar/euro cards but it obviously can't.. Drivers are also very bad and it takes too long for them to release mature drivers. It took AMD 2 years to make a card that can actually compete with the 970 performance at the same power draw.

Lets hope ZEN WILL deliver the performance they promised otherwise lots of people are very pissed off including me..
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Nvidia and AMD drivers both mature overtime, that's fact. The new RX480 is a 6pin powered card that can keep up with a 970 that needs 2 6pin plugs, thats quite a feat imo. Lets not forget this is a budget card and isn't there supposed to be more coming out?
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Nvidia and AMD drivers both mature overtime, that's fact. The new RX480 is a 6pin powered card that can keep up with a 970 that needs 2 6pin plugs, thats quite a feat imo. Lets not forget this is a budget card and isn't there supposed to be more coming out?

NVIDIA performance enhancement drivers are usually done within 6 months of release. Any release after that are hot fixes for some issue, or to improve some random game. AMD is still releasing performance improvement drivers for the 2xx series cards, and they STILL aren't really performing as well as they should. I don't care what side of the fence you're standing on...that's a pretty sad state of affairs.
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