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Hey guys...

can anyone provide a good comparison between the S34e790c and the LG 34UC87?

I am wondering if the IPS panel is not better in color accuracy?

When you check this video :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ftsw8rnnf8

you get the impression the samsung is blurry and not that good in darks like Linus is mentioning in the video later on.

The LG looks like it produces deeper darks and colors.

This is a VA monitor not an IPS, this means the blacks/whites are much better than IPS. To be fair, compare to my Dell U2412M, the Samsung is amazing. There is a looooong forum post on another forum that compares it with the LG and the Samsung wins.
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This is a VA monitor not an IPS, this means the blacks/whites are much better than IPS. To be fair, compare to my Dell U2412M, the Samsung is amazing. There is a looooong forum post on another forum that compares it with the LG and the Samsung wins.

I know it is VA on the Samsung, but in the YT video the impression is different from what i expected. The LG (IPS) looks "better".

Can you post or send me the link to the forum you mentioned, please?

Thanks
post #403 of 545
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I know it is VA on the Samsung, but in the YT video the impression is different from what i expected. The LG (IPS) looks "better".

Can you post or send me the link to the forum you mentioned, please?

Thanks

I think it was this one: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1801170

Also search for the samsung vs the Dell U3415W. The Dell is essentially the same as the LG, as they are using the same panel. I think Linus' forums got a few posts about them.
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I think it was this one: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1801170

Also search for the samsung vs the Dell U3415W. The Dell is essentially the same as the LG, as they are using the same panel. I think Linus' forums got a few posts about them.

yeah, thanks. If the LG has the same glow and bleeding issues as the Dell it wont be my choice. I guess i should buy the Samsung and be happy
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yeah, thanks. If the LG has the same glow and bleeding issues as the Dell it wont be my choice. I guess i should buy the Samsung and be happy

Dell is actually better than the LG. As Ultrasharp (Uxxxx models) is their top range series, aiming at photography/videography professionals -and only recently gamers they tend to do quality control on the panels they put in and factory calibrations. They have a "P" for professional, which tends to be rebranded U-series monitors with less QC on the factory and no callibration. LG doesn't do "professional" monitors, so they are waaaay less picky on the panels they put in compare to Dell -plus worse warranty.

I will say go with the Samsung. No regrets on the actual screen. My only complain is that when the monitor heats up there is a loud "plastic popping" sound once or twice, but nothing major. The overall screen is elegant -love the design.
post #406 of 545
Tom's just reviewed the HP Envy 34c, if you want another panel choice. They liked it for color/uniformity, and even liked the speakers out the sides. For gaming it's only 60hz, and both input lag and absolute delay seem pretty poor.
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Might be good for work, but for gaming VA has too random responsetimes depending on colors shown. Not good for fast paced games, will result in alot of blur when moving around fast. The best gaming VA monitor also suffered from this (Eizo FG2421, 120/240 Hz). Returned it after a few days because of that.
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Might be good for work, but for gaming VA has too random responsetimes depending on colors shown. Not good for fast paced games, will result in alot of blur when moving around fast. The best gaming VA monitor also suffered from this (Eizo FG2421, 120/240 Hz). Returned it after a few days because of that.

That is IF you're into face-paced / competitive gaming (ASUS ROG is best for that) and not single-player. FYI, VA monitors take 30-40 minutes after being turned on before they reach maximum response times. I am not sure if all review sites even know about this, but it IS a known fact. My FG2421 also shows some mild streaking and blur at 120Hz with Turbo 240 enabled when turned on, but after 30 minutes it goes away entirely and fast-paced games have much better clarity than any monitor @ 120Hz without Light-Strobing.
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That is IF you're into face-paced / competitive gaming (ASUS ROG is best for that) and not single-player. FYI, VA monitors take 30-40 minutes after being turned on before they reach maximum response times. I am not sure if all review sites even know about this, but it IS a known fact. My FG2421 also shows some mild streaking and blur at 120Hz with Turbo 240 enabled when turned on, but after 30 minutes it goes away entirely and fast-paced games have much better clarity than any monitor @ 120Hz without Light-Strobing.

Nah, it was on for hours and hours when i tested it. Still blurry compared to good gaming monitors. And viewing angles were very bad, too much color / gamma shifting too.
Edited by Lass3 - 10/25/15 at 9:27am
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Nah, it was on for hours and hours when i tested it. Still blurry compared to good gaming monitors. And viewing angles were very bad, too much color / gamma shifting too.

I agree about viewing angles - they do suck, but if it visible only on certain grayscale levels and film playback. I don't see it in most of my games. I used to have ASUS ROG and it paled in comparison to FG2421 when it came to image quality. ASUS ROG's motion with ULMB was only slightly clearer to my eyes compared to FG2421's motion, but ASUS ROG did have much better input lag. I guess it depends on the person because I can''t even catch FG2421's double-strobing, unless I test it with BlurBusters tools.

There's just no good alternatives out there that can provide BOTH - great motion and great image quality. All TN's are out of the question for their terrible color reproduction, terrible view angles (worse than FG2421) and most importantly very poor contrast & black levels. IPS has better angles, more accurate colors, but once again - very poor contrast & black levels in addition to IPS glow, which further reduces image quality and depth perception.

Contrast ratio is the #1 factor of any display's image quality because it creates a much deeper image, 3D-like image, that greatly improves immersion. The majority of professional calibrators, color scientists, display technology experts, and HTPC enthusiasts agrees with that. It is also why the highest-end TV's today are plasma TV's with exceptionally high contrast ratio and very deep black levels. They are no longer manufactured because they look best in dark environments and most TV's are sold in bright rooms/stores in addition to having bad rep for their "burn-in" issue, which no longer exists (any image retention can be easily removed). Right now OLED's are in the process of replacing plasma TV's and ONCE AGAIN, they are the highest-end TV's because of their super contrast ratio (better than plasma's).
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