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980 is to fight a 380. Its actually the midrange card on maxwell.

So lets see how titan II does.

So instead of talking abt the pricing of titan ii.
Lol gtx 980 will drop to usd399-449.

Account for that 30 percent loss in less than 6 months.

So the longer amd takes to release. The longer the game time value.
So if we see history again
990 - dual 980 2x4gb
Titan II interesting part here i think it will be 384bit 12gb gddr6
1080 384bit gddr6
1080ti 385bit gddr6
titan ii black full maxwell 384bit gddr6
Titan z ii dusl t2b.

This is what i reckon is going to happen.
Edited by cstkl1 - 10/16/14 at 2:21am
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You can still play 4K on 780s/780 Ti's without MSAA in most games. As for anything below 4K, it still rips through games Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
, and I have a dedicated 780 Classified in my sons rig that I actually put in place of my spare 290X because of how hot the VRMs were getting on that card with the GPU Mod. It rips through 1080p Crysis 3 no problem, you just can't get happy with the AA is all.

Some people are still happy with their GTX 680/770 and I know of people that bought a 770 just a few months back and will probably have it for years to come. 1080p is plenty doable even with 2GB. Just because 1 or 2 titles come out that require over 3gb for the ultimate settings doesn't mean by any stretch of the imagination that the 780 is as obsolete as the 690 has become.

The 690 was tech that was built with a ton of horsepower behind it that still beat out 780 Ti's/Titan Blacks, and I'm pretty sure it trades blows with a 980 at 1080p. To limit the frame buffer to 2GB was a huge mistake, or perhaps obsolete by design after a given window of time, which works well for the type of gamers that spend 1k on single cards.

Gaming tech hasn't progressed enough to the point where you can say 3GB of VRAM is equal to 2GB. I'd say 3GB is perfect for right now. Future proof, no. But it can still stretch its legs.

I hate to see older tech discarded so easily because a new kid on the block comes around. Coming from someone selling a Quad GK110 setup, it may seem hypocritical, but if I could, I'd love to save 1 just to play with and I still might. For comparison's sake I've got a 680, 780, 3 290X's, 4 780 Ti's, and 2 980's. It's definitely worthy of a review, but it would be the most time consuming thing I've done in a while.


Personally I haven't put a chip in my X79 rig for nearly a year because my 3770k rig is perfectly suited for 2 way SLI, and capable of 4. PCIe bandwidth isn't a limiting factor without significant data throughput requirements, such as high SuperSampling or 4K, in which case 3.0 becomes necessary, however 2.0 @ 8x via 4 way is still viable.


I'd say the best bang for the buck 4K or 1440p 120hz rig would have to be 5820K with 3 GTX 980s, with Big Maxwell being the next step up that ladder. With PCIe 3.0 and 28 lanes, I think it's a perfect segment, and pushes people like myself with an X79 setup (missing a CPU) into being obsolete. What's the point of spending 350-400+ on a 3930K/4930K used with an option like that...

Edit: Having said that, I do think that the price of entry with DDR4 is a bit of a hurdle into X99, as is the price of admission for even an entry level mobo.

Of course I don't mean the 780 is obsolete that would be silly, I'm just saying 4gb on those would have been optimum already and why not 5 GB on maxwell ? smile.gif

Why lately it's always been AMD who increased the VRAM on their cards .. curious, if AMD were crazy enough they would put 6gb on their next year release at least for high end cards !
Edited by StrongForce - 10/16/14 at 3:11am
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I guess I am going to keep my mATX in hopes of 990 GTX or the Titan X being $1000 lol
    
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post #244 of 419
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Originally Posted by V3teran View Post

It is coming before the end of the year.

If Titan X is coming B4 EOY it has to be in time for the season period meaning it should arrive sometime in November.

But when then would be coming the next, 20nm generation? End of Q1 2015 at earliest? This is of interest since 20nm should be adding another 30% performance min on top of Titan X. Thus in short time we may expect 100% performance jump over the current cards.
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If Titan X is coming B4 EOY it has to be in time for the season period meaning it should arrive sometime in November.

But when then would be coming the next, 20nm generation? End of Q1 2015 at earliest? This is of interest since 20nm should be adding another 30% performance min on top of Titan X. Thus in short time we may expect 100% performance jump over the current cards.

because of this I'll be holding off on upgrading my Titan Black until 20nm. Seems like the best bet is to upgrade every second "generation".
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because of this I'll be holding off on upgrading my Titan Black until 20nm. Seems like the best bet is to upgrade every second "generation".

Sounds like a good strategy. Risk is in the waiting time: will 20nm chips be made early 2015?, will they make top range chips at the start or rather start with the low-end?? Thus in the worst case Titan XXL in 20nm is 1 year away and that's looongish.
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because of this I'll be holding off on upgrading my Titan Black until 20nm. Seems like the best bet is to upgrade every second "generation".
Just upgrade when you need too. Don't get caught on the bandwagon.
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Originally Posted by V3teran View Post

Just upgrade when you need too. Don't get caught on the bandwagon.

Expected 100% performance jump against Titan Black will justify the upgrade.
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Of course I don't mean the 780 is obsolete that would be silly, I'm just saying 4gb on those would have been optimum already and why not 5 GB on maxwell ? smile.gif

Why lately it's always been AMD who increased the VRAM on their cards .. curious, if AMD were crazy enough they would put 6gb on their next year release at least for high end cards !

I agree, if 980 Maxwell had 6G to start the fun I would already own several. I'm stuck as the 6G 780's dissappeared in a pinch and this close to 2015 I'm not going to buy 6 Titan's and have last gen while paying a premium at the end of the generation. (Yes 6 for GPU Octane Rendering)

 

I need a mixture of Cuda Cores and as much memory the cards can give me to fit my scenes. Right now I'm floating and in between waves. No need to go backwards personally, so I'm a candidate for cloud GPU rendering, which I'm not exactly crazy about.

 

OT:

Also I'm dying to get my GPU Render Rig under way. Case got here yesterday. I'm soon to be broke from EK, Bitspower, and Intel. :sad-smile

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