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post #11 of 77
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Originally Posted by iFreilicht View Post

Subbed! Desk PCs are always ridiculously oversized, and with two PCs inside, you can count me in! thumb.gif

Really curious how the cooling will look like.

Hi iFreilicht!

Thanks for the sub! My goal was to separate the radiator from the main system. The bottom part of the desk will only compose of the rads, fans, maybe a res and fan hubs. Then the front cover of the bottom part, well, maybe i'll cut a piece of acrylic sheet, put x2 200mm fans on each side of the sheet, and the middle part of the sheet will have a HUGE hole with mesh. That might give the bottom part of the desk with a lot of fresh air intake. Still not sure if i will go with that but right now, thats all I could think of doing. Or maybe just leave the bottom part open? biggrin.gif
post #12 of 77
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Originally Posted by kazuma16 View Post

Hey Mopar!

I have seen a desk with that design last week over at facebook. The design of each leg can accommodate one 480mm radiators. It looks like the leg that I made except for that instead of linear actuators, it has radiator inside. It has 4 intake fans on the front part of the leg and another 4 behind for a push/pull config. Neat isn't it? I will try to find that drawing and i'll try to post it here. Are you planning on making one?

Yeah I saw that desk, it was however I believe just passing air through the legs, in the front out the back for the radiators. What I am proposing is using the legs like the Dyson fan uses it's stand, pull the cool air through the legs and channel it into the main chamber.
post #13 of 77
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Originally Posted by kazuma16 View Post

Thanks for the sub! My goal was to separate the radiator from the main system. The bottom part of the desk will only compose of the rads, fans, maybe a res and fan hubs. Then the front cover of the bottom part, well, maybe i'll cut a piece of acrylic sheet, put x2 200mm fans on each side of the sheet, and the middle part of the sheet will have a HUGE hole with mesh. That might give the bottom part of the desk with a lot of fresh air intake. Still not sure if i will go with that but right now, thats all I could think of doing. Or maybe just leave the bottom part open? biggrin.gif

I wouldn't leave it open, that would be too easy tongue.gif also it would get dusty in there quite quickly. If you manage to seal the lower part or use filters wherever air could come in, you should go for negative pressure inside the fan compartment. From what I've heard that reduces dustiness dramatically, so you'd have to clean it less often.

Just use an acrylic panel for the front an two fans as you said, but run them on low RPMs and don't use a mesh in the middle.
post #14 of 77
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Originally Posted by Mopar63 View Post

Yeah I saw that desk, it was however I believe just passing air through the legs, in the front out the back for the radiators. What I am proposing is using the legs like the Dyson fan uses it's stand, pull the cool air through the legs and channel it into the main chamber.

Ooh, that was exactly what my dad was telling me. Although it was a great idea, he did not want to get involved in the building process. When he saw me doing those gigantic legs, that's what he thought i was going for but when he saw I was lining in the actuators, he pointed that idea out. Im like, "neeeeeeh, I wanted the height of the desk to be adjusted easily so I will go with this. Unless of course if you want to help me out?." And my dad just turned and walk away nodding his head. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by iFreilicht View Post

I wouldn't leave it open, that would be too easy tongue.gif also it would get dusty in there quite quickly. If you manage to seal the lower part or use filters wherever air could come in, you should go for negative pressure inside the fan compartment. From what I've heard that reduces dustiness dramatically, so you'd have to clean it less often.

Just use an acrylic panel for the front an two fans as you said, but run them on low RPMs and don't use a mesh in the middle.

I heard before that positive air pressure blows dust away from the inside of the case instead of negative air pressure. I currently have a negative air pressure set up on my current rig, and maaaaaaan the dust collection us just amazing. My pc right now is like a vacuum cleaner. Thanks for the idea. I was planning on putting mesh filters on every intake and leave the exhaust open. This project might take longer than expected. Winter is coming here, last saturday was the last day with warm temperature. And now, the temperature here is 10c. Painting the remaining parts of the desk is going to be a pain in the rear end. tongue.gif
post #15 of 77
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I heard before that positive air pressure blows dust away from the inside of the case instead of negative air pressure. I currently have a negative air pressure set up on my current rig, and maaaaaaan the dust collection us just amazing. My pc right now is like a vacuum cleaner. Thanks for the idea. I was planning on putting mesh filters on every intake and leave the exhaust open. This project might take longer than expected. Winter is coming here, last saturday was the last day with warm temperature. And now, the temperature here is 10c. Painting the remaining parts of the desk is going to be a pain in the rear end. tongue.gif

Well negative only works if the only intakes you have have filters on every intake, else dust will be sucked in. IIRC, negative pressure will also allow the fans inside the case to move more freely and thus producing less noise.

But yeah, if you can't or don't want to seal your case and put dust filters on every intake, go for positive, that will make your live easier. wink.gif
post #16 of 77
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Well negative only works if the only intakes you have have filters on every intake, else dust will be sucked in. IIRC, negative pressure will also allow the fans inside the case to move more freely and thus producing less noise.

But yeah, if you can't or don't want to seal your case and put dust filters on every intake, go for positive, that will make your live easier. wink.gif

Yep! My current rig right now is on a Corsair Obsidian 350D, got 2 dual 120mm radiators inside (top and front) with push/pull configs. well the front has the Push/Pull config and the top only has push config. I have 1 intake fan on the rear part of the case with a filter. It does the job but man, cleaning the filter every week, I am just amazed on how much dust it takes. biggrin.gif


i might use 2 200mm fans for the bottom part of the desk. one on each side of the cover and the middle part of the cover will be mesh. The top cover of the desk, I might go with grabbing a 1/2" acrylic sheet with the same dimensions of the cover. The cover for the top, which was just a plywood, got kinda flimpsy since I made a huge window in the middle of it. That might not be sturdy enough to handle a 27" monitor on top. If I go with the acrylic sheet, I really don't have to make another window on it since it's already clear. So I might go with that. Well, we'll see if I could find a cheap one on kijiji.

Thanks for the suggestions and tips iFreilicht!
post #17 of 77
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The cover for the top, which was just a plywood, got kinda flimpsy since I made a huge window in the middle of it. That might not be sturdy enough to handle a 27" monitor on top. If I go with the acrylic sheet, I really don't have to make another window on it since it's already clear. So I might go with that. Well, we'll see if I could find a cheap one on kijiji.

Thanks for the suggestions and tips iFreilicht!

You're welcome, but I'm not done! tongue.gif

Have you thought about screwing support beams to it from the underside?

I thought you would go for smoked or tempered glass. With the right lighting on the inside, that looks more amazing than anything you've ever seen! Also, acrylic glass tends to get scratched even easier than regular glass. It is of course cheaper, so you've got to make a decision there. This picture gives a good idea of what I'm talking about:



Imagine UV-Lighting and painted components shining through that! drool.gif
post #18 of 77
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You're welcome, but I'm not done! tongue.gif

Have you thought about screwing support beams to it from the underside?

I thought you would go for smoked or tempered glass. With the right lighting on the inside, that looks more amazing than anything you've ever seen! Also, acrylic glass tends to get scratched even easier than regular glass. It is of course cheaper, so you've got to make a decision there. This picture gives a good idea of what I'm talking about:



Imagine UV-Lighting and painted components shining through that! drool.gif

You mean like this?



Yep, if that is what you are thinking, then you are correct! That photo is the photo of my current rig right now. The left side of the photo, the system is off, and the right side of the photo, the system is turned on. thumb.gif

I modded the side panel window of my Corsair Obsidian 350D and applied Privacy window film on it.
Whaddaya think?
post #19 of 77
This build is incredible. Don't know how I didn't see this sooner. I'm actually just finishing a desk build of my own, but this puts mine to shame
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Living Room HTPC
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Bedroom HTPC
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4670K Gigabyte Z97N-WiFi Zotac GTX 980 ti Reference 16gb Hyper X 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 830 256gb Raijintek EreBoss Core Edition  Win10 Pro x64  LG 29UM57-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm QuickFire TK w/ MX Browns Silverstone Strider Platinum 550 Raijintek Styx Logitech G700 
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Intel Core i3 2100 Intel DH61BEB3 mATX XFX 6670 2GB 8gb GSkill Ares DDR3-1600 
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SanDisk SSD Plus 120gb SSD Seagate Barracuda 2TB Arctic Freezer 11 LP Win7 Ultimate x64 
MonitorPowerCase
47" LED TV Corsair CX430 SilverStone Grandia GD05B HTPC  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 MSI G41TM-E43 GT 610 2GB Corsair DDR2 
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post #20 of 77
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This build is incredible. Don't know how I didn't see this sooner. I'm actually just finishing a desk build of my own, but this puts mine to shame

Oh no no no, please don't say that. This is an amateur/newbie build. Nothing too special on this except for the height adjustment of the desk. Other else than that, there nothing more I guess..
But thanks for the compliment!
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