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Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!

This is incredibly exciting. Earth is going to junk, so let's hopefully start our space travel to mars and begin a new world for the better. Maybe in a billion years, we'll see species evolve and crawl from the ground there, too.
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post #122 of 129
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You're right, I was, incorrectly, using the temp 'warp' drive to cover all propellant-less drive systems.

NASA recently tested a magnetoplasmadynamic (awesome name) drive which produces thrust without propellant, seemingly with positive results. As far as I understand it they virtual quantum particles, which appear to exist randomly in space for a brief period, to produce thrust, but the physics goes way over my head. The thrust produced was tiny, in the micro-Newton range. They are still working on it, and although it does seem to be working they still haven't tested it in a vacuum. Results can be found here.

The theories on the actual 'warp' drives show that a very large amount of power will be needed to produce any meaningful thrust, so we would be looking at (hopefully) using a fusion power to run them. Interstellar travel can't rely on solar panels anyway, they would have to be huge to collect enough power to run a space craft in deep space.

Star trek seems to always know the future, so let's take some cues from it, and build ourselves a starfleet! The days are coming.
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I imagine it would require some form of energy shield, just another thing that would require large amounts of stable energy ...

Kind of like the 'navigational deflectors' mentioned on Star Trek.

It is a good job that Lockheed recently came up with a breakthrough small fusion reactor design...
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Kind of like the 'navigational deflectors' mentioned on Star Trek.

It is a good job that Lockheed recently came up with a breakthrough small fusion reactor design...

It be good if someone could come up with a Fusion reactor of any size, fusion is way better than the currently used Fission reactors with their Nuclear waste with a half life of 200,000 plus years, The best fuel of chose available today is Helium 3, very rare

Helium 3 wiki
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It be good if someone could come up with a Fusion reactor of any size, fusion is way better than the currently used Fission reactors with their Nuclear waste with a half life of 200,000 plus years, The best fuel of chose available today is Helium 3, very rare

Helium 3 wiki

Nuclear fission reactor highly radioactive byproducts half lives can be limited to ~300 years with fast reactors. Other long-lived products are not very radioactive at all. The most radioactive components of nuclear wastes are the actinides, and fast reactors consume actinides.
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It be good if someone could come up with a Fusion reactor of any size, fusion is way better than the currently used Fission reactors with their Nuclear waste with a half life of 200,000 plus years, The best fuel of chose available today is Helium 3, very rare

Helium 3 wiki

Ah yes, more of a reason to go back to the moon.

(edit) I just read about Skunk Works' progress on a compact fusion reactor. If they can really make the reactor produce 10 times as much energy as the tokamak of the same size, that is really incredible. But they should make quick use of the tritium fuel- it would only have a half life of a dozen years.
Edited by ccRicers - 10/15/14 at 7:12pm
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Just thought I would drop this by for anyone interested.
A 16x9 real image of a Martian Sunset.

Note sure but I guess the coloring would be superimposed from a black/white original.
Not to detailed on the Mars Rover cameras.

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Just thought I would drop this by for anyone interested.
A 16x9 real image of a Martian Sunset.

Note sure but I guess the coloring would be superimposed from a black/white original.
Not to detailed on the Mars Rover cameras.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


kinda reminds me of the almost sunsets I saw at my in-laws house up in Alaska (north coast)
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Nuclear fission reactor highly radioactive byproducts half lives can be limited to ~300 years with fast reactors. Other long-lived products are not very radioactive at all. The most radioactive components of nuclear wastes are the actinides, and fast reactors consume actinides.

Yes but the real nasty stuff is the Plutonium, even after it is depleted it still posses a great health risk, that is one of the reasons US troops were told to stay away from the dead Iraqi tanks during Desert storm
Edited by slickwilly - 10/22/14 at 6:03am
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kinda reminds me of the almost sunsets I saw at my in-laws house up in Alaska (north coast)
Yes but the real nasty stuff is the Plutonium, even after it is depleted it still posses a great health risk, that is one of the reasons US troops were told to stay away from the dead Iraqi tanks during Desert storm

Fast reactors fission plutonium. Which is an actinide.
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