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I'm finding the LLC levels and graph to be rather misleading on my X99 OC Formula.

The only LLC setting that seems to be applying any notable droop at all with a manual VIN is level 5. Level 4 is flat, and levels 1-3 all seem to have v rise. The description and graph contradict this and state that Level 1 should simply eliminate droop, with the other levels deviating less and less from spec.

Not a big deal regardless, as level 5 is proving usable, but those who are overvolting input voltage or trying to shave heat off may want to look at their LLC settings.
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Almost all $60 boards are crappy. It's more a symptom of the segment than of the manufacturer.

Thats true, suppose they wouldnt put top of the line caps and crap on a cheap board tongue.gif

I have heard complaints about high end ASRock boards being faulty tho
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I have heard complaints about high end ASRock boards being faulty tho

More so than ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, or any other manufacturer?

I haven't seen evidence an unusually high failure rate from ASRock's X99 line, or it's immediate predecessor.
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Edited by YZ125 - 3/28/15 at 7:38am
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i think if you use FPT tool its possible if everything is the same. But do at your own risk. FPT tool is from Intel, it should be able to do a clean flash of all AMI based UEFI

Sorry for such a delayed response. Do you have any further information about this? And if this board has a backup BIOS (looks like you can see the two BIOS chips, and the switch in the picture I posted) then if I were to try to flash a modified BIOS that failed, wouldn't I be able to flip the switch, boot into the other BIOS and re-flash the BIOS on the other chip?
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Alright, I'm running into a fairly significant issue with my ASRock X99 OC Formula.

I cannot boot to any Linux based live distro, irrespective of media. USB, DVD, CD-ROM...does not matter, it won't boot. UEFI vs. legacy...equally irrelevant. Always get a freeze, and occasionally a kernel panic or I/O error.

So far this has happened with RIPLinux, GParted, Partition Magic, and a few others. I've used different USB ports, different flash drives, different optical media, etc. I'm at a loss here.
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And if this board has a backup BIOS (looks like you can see the two BIOS chips, and the switch in the picture I posted) then if I were to try to flash a modified BIOS that failed, wouldn't I be able to flip the switch, boot into the other BIOS and re-flash the BIOS on the other chip?

Yes, you can destroy the firmware on one and still have a usable board because of the second ROM chip. You can also copy the good the ROM image to the corrupt chip from within the UEFI setup.
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Some cons:

- PCB came warped. It's not extreme and not enough to have any practical effect, but it was immediately noticeable.
- Molex connector for the PCI-E supplemental power is almost unusable in mid-tower cases with a bottom mounted PSU.
- Top PCI-E slot (and only 16x capable slot with a 28-lane CPU) is pretty close to the LGA-2011v3 socket. My NH-D14 fits when a GPU is installed in this slot, but only barely, and I need to have tape insulating the metal fan clips on that side of the heatsink. This layout is mostly unavoidable due to the board supporting 4-way, but it would have been nice if another slot was the 16x electrical slot with 28-lane processors.
- BIOS still has errors. Several memory timings do not have the range of options stated, and one voltage setting shows as being in the red danger range when manually set to stock.
- Some confusingly labeled settings and fairly poor documentation.
- Difficulty automatically booting to UEFI enabled USB media.
- Conformal coating seems a bit susceptible to scratching and can flake slightly along the edges of the board.
- No "OC socket", which limits rings/cache/uncore/NB/IMC clock. Not a big issue as only memory benchmarks and some archival programs will even show a difference, but still a fairly conspicuous absence in an OC oriented board.
- Heatsinks, while still functional, don't have anywhere near as much surface area as they would had they actual fins.

I haven't had time to really turn the board inside out yet, but my initial results are promising. Very pleased with how it's handling memory OCing, and how cool it runs.
I wondered if this was it, but was doubtful as to why it would need it's own voltage domain.

You are the second person that has said this, and the X99 PCH datasheets hint that you are right, so I'll consider it confirmed.
I do not have one, and I have not used one, but all indicators are that it's a solid board. It shares about 90% of the parts, layout, and firmware with the X99 OC Formula, which I'm pretty impressed with.

It's strange that the PCB has come in warped with an 8 layer PCB. Asrock has historically cut back on the PCB layers for its lower end boards but on a higher end board? The other hardware issues don't seem to be too bad - the conformal coating is a minor issue.

Judging by the other types of bugs you are getting, some of them seem to be early BIOS errors.

TTL indicated that Asus had a monopoly on the "Socket 2083" for 6 months, which is why we are only now seeing other vendors with this socket (Ex: Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion). I've been wondering if the motherboard makers are going to do a refresh on their models - likely with Socket 2083 and perhaps other features like USB 3.1.

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Alright, I'm running into a fairly significant issue with my ASRock X99 OC Formula.

I cannot boot to any Linux based live distro, irrespective of media. USB, DVD, CD-ROM...does not matter, it won't boot. UEFI vs. legacy...equally irrelevant. Always get a freeze, and occasionally a kernel panic or I/O error.

So far this has happened with RIPLinux, GParted, Partition Magic, and a few others. I've used different USB ports, different flash drives, different optical media, etc. I'm at a loss here.
Yes, you can destroy the firmware on one and still have a usable board because of the second ROM chip. You can also copy the good the ROM image to the corrupt chip from within the UEFI setup.

This does seem like a BIOS issue. So far, how good has Asrock been about updating the BIOS? On some boards in the past, they've dropped support fairly early and that's a cause for concern.

That's my big concern right now with Asrock - they need to be on the ball with upgrading the BIOS of these boards as there does seem to be some launch issues.
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Any of you guys have the X99 WS board?

Considering it as a replacement for my Everything Server tongue.gif but dont wanna spend $300+ if its a crappy board

Thanks wheee.gif

Searching around the web, early revisions of this board were hampered by an unstable BIOS. Judging by what is being posted here, some boards still seem to be suffering from various BIOS issues. I'd check to see what has been upgraded in the latest BIOS revisions before upgrading.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/10/28/asrock_x99_ws_lga_2011v3_motherboard_review/7

Give the link a read.
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It's strange that the PCB has come in warped with an 8 layer PCB. Asrock has historically cut back on the PCB layers for its lower end boards but on a higher end board?

It's just a mild manufacturing defect, but it's definitely there, and the board is most definitely eight layers. Most boards is encounter are warped to some degree out of the box, but ASRock has generally been the worst for this.
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So far, how good has Asrock been about updating the BIOS?

There have been more than half dozen new firmware revisions since release (if I include public betas), and the most recent firmware is only three weeks old.
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Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.05) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Cooler Master Nepton 280L 
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Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
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Fractal Design Define R4 CM Storm Spawn Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
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X5670 Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Reference R9 290X w/Stilt's MLU 1000e / 1375m E... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600MT/s 7-8-8-19-T1,... 
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1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 1600MT/s 7-8-8-1... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 2x Seagate 7200.10 RAID 0 
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FX-9590 @ 5GHz, 1.55v ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Reference NVIDIA GTX 780 2x8GiB G.Skill DDR3-1866 10-11-10-30-T1, 1.5v 
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Crucial M500 480GB 2x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB XSPC RX360 + X20 750 + Raystorm Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 
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Dell S2740L Seasonic SS-860XP2 Coolermaster HAF-932 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
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Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
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Fractal Design Define R4 CM Storm Spawn Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
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X5670 Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Reference R9 290X w/Stilt's MLU 1000e / 1375m E... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600MT/s 7-8-8-19-T1,... 
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ASUS Xonar DS 
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FX-9590 @ 5GHz, 1.55v ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Reference NVIDIA GTX 780 2x8GiB G.Skill DDR3-1866 10-11-10-30-T1, 1.5v 
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Crucial M500 480GB 2x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB XSPC RX360 + X20 750 + Raystorm Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 
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Asrock has an oc socket version in the works, might not hit retail though

Esp. Since it looks like the soc champion has been pulled from the market, perhaps due to asus patent
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Originally Posted by Mark the Bold View Post

Just installed my new Asrock Killer x99x that I hotswapped from Microcenter.

I gave up on my Gigabyte x99-ud4, and hopefully Microcenter cast it into the fiery chasm from whence it came!! mad.gif Cold boot. USB issues up the yazoo, loud pops from my USB DAC, WD My Book never recognized, BIOS freezes, cold cycling, memory bandwidth caps, shoddy BIOS support etc. etc. I've been a Gigabyte purist for many years, so coming here and putting up my Asrock flag means a lot to me. In fact this is the first non-Gigabyte MB since my DFI LanParty 939 MB. biggrin.gif

I didn't need the Killer x99x features or anything, but it was the only Asrock they had in stock. I wanted the extreme4 but hey, I splurged. smile.gif

I went with the Asrock simply because it was the only manufacturer that had a straight up pure Intel USB / Sata (Southbridge?) interface. I figured all the issues I was having with the Giga was related to all the Sata Express garbage interfaces, Reanseas ?? USB controllers, half-a$$ed M2 interface, etc. I'll stop ranting now.

This MB has been a dream to work with. Already got to use the handy Dr.Debug LCD error code, because when I first powered it on it clearly stated I had a memory issue. Silly me had not pushed the DDR4 dimms in far enough. Dr. Debug, where have you been all my life?

I'm probably late to the party here, but the UEFI live BIOS update is probably the best thing to happen to BIOS updates ever. Why is this not standardized on all MB's? I'm now done with USB Q Flash crap. Yay. OC'd my CPU up to 4.6 GHZ at 1.21v and my memory to 2600 MHz 14-14-14-32-1N with just 1.3v with just a few clicks of the mouse.

My only complaint is that the MB could use a fan plug near the back of the case and the CPU PWM pins are kind of hard to reach for those of us with top mounted radiators. But this is really minor stuff people.

Awesome MB. Highly recommended. Again, Asrock where have you been all my life!!


Nice story realy.

Asrock has realy opt their game since Z97 and X99 realy.
They make decent boards, and as far as X99 goes, it seems like Asrock is the most trouble free of all brands.

They just work properly. smile.gif
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