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Of all things, I would just want to reuse my old X-fi titanium in such a board(by passing the Windows mixer with OpenAL is just something I like.).
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post #912 of 979
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Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post

I've said this before, but imo, there isn't a single 1x PCIe device that has a place inside a SFF build, all of them have similar or superior external alternatives.
I contend that having extraneous junk outside your case IS inferior and serves to undermine the claim of being a small system in the first place.

if you can put a DAC inside a set of speakers (or better yet, headphones), great, but a random box on your desk next to your computer isn't as good as a card inside your computer.
I similarly don't care for power bricks which only serve to get in the way and add one more piece of extra junk to worry about.
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post #913 of 979
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

that one is still mATX, but can also be considered as FlexATX by ATX standards.
FlexATX has a dimension no larger than 229mm × 191mm and has no more than 3 expansion slots.

on a side note, that board can fit on some ITX cases like the bitfenix Prodigy.


A three slot board can fit in a CaseLabs Mercury S3 too
post #914 of 979
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

if all you can think of DTX is dual GPUs, then thats just so wrong, not creative enough, and not everything can benefit from dual GPUs.
sadly i'm short on things i can choose from, the only ones available are Xonar cards, already bought DX.
and the only available USB Xonar is U5 and U7 which are both inferior to Xonar DX.

Hardly, I would be happy seeing an extra 4x slot already, 1x is just completely useless. 4x gen3 has so many more applications, like PCIe SSD's, high end capture cards, RAID controllers, etc.
And are those really the only dac/amp's you managed to find?
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Originally Posted by BirdofPrey View Post

I contend that having extraneous junk outside your case IS inferior and serves to undermine the claim of being a small system in the first place.

if you can put a DAC inside a set of speakers (or better yet, headphones), great, but a random box on your desk next to your computer isn't as good as a card inside your computer.
I similarly don't care for power bricks which only serve to get in the way and add one more piece of extra junk to worry about.

Hmmm lets see here:

Cons:
Takes a tiny bit of extra space on your desk(can be put on top of the monitor stand most of the time)
Add 1 or 2 cables depending on whether it needs additional power.

Pros:
Available with superior amps and/or dacs
Enables swapping your entire audio between different devices with a single USB.
Some can be used on the go.

I'll take my O2 Dac+Amp over any soundcard any day, as the pros seriously outweigh the cons for me. As I have properly cable managed my desk so the extra cables aren't noticeable and its just sits on my monitor stand so doesn't actually take any extra desk space. And there isn't a soundcard that could properly drive my headphones with acceptable sound quality.

If you really care that much about saving a few square centimeters of space, sure go get a soundcard, but I prefer a proper setup.
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For me it's dual x16 or bust. Dual x16 also precludes the use of low end chipsets that don't support overclocking.


Something like this would be cool:

post #916 of 979
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Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post

Hardly, I would be happy seeing an extra 4x slot already, 1x is just completely useless. 4x gen3 has so many more applications, like PCIe SSD's, high end capture cards, RAID controllers, etc.
And are those really the only dac/amp's you managed to find?

i can agree to that, an open back 8x could also support for most of those enthusiast cravings.
although it wont be 2x16 dual GPUs, it can do 8+8 or 8+16.


there was an Asus Essense STU for roughly $600 before, but i guess it couldn't sell well enough so they took it off their shelves.
though even if its still available, i couldn't justify spending that much on a whimsical craving for just a bit more audio quality.
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i can agree to that, an open back 8x could also support for most of those enthusiast cravings.
although it wont be 2x16 dual GPUs, it can do 8+8 or 8+16.


there was an Asus Essense STU for roughly $600 before, but i guess it couldn't sell well enough so they took it off their shelves.
though even if its still available, i couldn't justify spending that much on a whimsical craving for just a bit more audio quality.

An open back 8x would be great indeed.

Back on topic of the dac/amps, you know ASUS isn't the only one making them right? They're hardly even a big player when it comes to external dacs.

There are tons of them, some with just headphone amplifiers, some with speaker amplifiers, some with both. some with just stereo outputs, some with 2.1 outputs, etc.

5.1 and 7.1 surround are more commonly found on recievers, and arguably , if you have the room for that many speakers, you'll probably have space for a receiver too.
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there aren't any other brand of DACs to choose from, so i didn't really have a choice.
the stores here are mostly Asus fans, so far their inventories are like 70% Asus and 30% other brands.
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

there aren't any other brand of DACs to choose from, so i didn't really have a choice.
the stores here are mostly Asus fans, so far their inventories are like 70% Asus and 30% other brands.

Have you tried looking at actual audio stores, no option of buying from other countries?

Most of my online purchases are from abroad, because prices here aren't great and shipping isn't that expensive these days.
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Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post

Have you tried looking at actual audio stores, no option of buying from other countries?

Most of my online purchases are from abroad, because prices here aren't great and shipping isn't that expensive these days.

actual audio stores have those big AV Receivers that costs $300~$2000. biggrin.gif
though i don't think they have USB input, they do have digital input.

can't import, aside from not having a credit card or paypal account, its also a hassle due to customs.
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