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You mean why aren't they making an 8x8gb package? Probably figuring "why bother, they can order two packages" instead of having them manufacture a new package and such, most likely.
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You mean why aren't they making an 8x8gb package? Probably figuring "why bother, they can order two packages" instead of having them manufacture a new package and such, most likely.

No, what I was asking is why they don't make kits with eight 4GB modules instead of kits with four 8GB modules? For that matter, I haven't seen any kits with more than four modules, no matter the total amount of RAM. I even saw a 128GB kit that had four 32GB modules; why not eight 16Gb modules? The X99 boards have eight RAM slots, why not use them all?
     
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No, what I was asking is why they don't make kits with eight 4GB modules instead of kits with four 8GB modules? For that matter, I haven't seen any kits with more than four modules, no matter the total amount of RAM. I even saw a 128GB kit that had four 32GB modules; why not eight 16Gb modules? The X99 boards have eight RAM slots, why not use them all?

Neweggs and superbiiz and other server website and memory company you can called then they got some whatever kits you likes and how you want them even 32x32 lol. Most of them got some kit above 8x8gb 0r 8x16gb and other above high kits g skills and corsair and other sometime they sell sometime they don't just have to go to the advance mode in newegg and other website to look for them and I seen other company does this. That is why most of them today you are better off buying two kit than having 8 rams in one kit to make you pay more. Just like having to pay one stick out of a time to get all 8 but it cost more than having just a kit of 2 rams stick but 2 of the kit and add another and not paying 8 rams stick kit is much less than buying 4 kit of 2 rams each for 8 rams truns out cheaper than buying 2 kit of 4 ram stick kit put togther.

Using extra slots for the memory on motherboard memory slots does take more power and of course heat and does add extra rooms plus more rams to powered up for extra bandwidth. Plus have to remember that when you added 4 memory on each side of the CPU slots but letting you to do quad channel memory interface at two ram per each channel per DIMM slots.. I know it takes 4 memory to do this processes to provide qaud channel memory interface. But still 2 double sided memory x8 module memory chips that have 8 or 7 on each side of the PCB memory x8 slots. But it say tying to impress your freinds saying check it out I got more and more memory. But it sures looks good having more rams in the slots thinking I got the best it can get.lol BUt DDR4 is less power and less heat so why not have extra memory. But then again if you used LRDIMM type memory of 32gb and 16 gb per modules you can only used 3x3 on 32GB and 4x4 on 16GB becasue they are 4 sided memory interface.
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Want to know something. I notice if you get single sided memory ram at 8GB is faster than a two sided at 8GB even at 4x8GB or 8x8GB mode when adding rams. So when you have 16GB two sided memory then it no different than having a single sided 8GB. But if it 16GB single sided than to havings a double sided then it much faster in each slots when doing all 8. Less work less stress. But having two sided memory takes much work when overclocking. I had better luck in overclocking in single sided memory. I always wanted to put a bigger transistors or add another one and overclock the heck out of it and watter cools it Snorkle.gif
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Man I want a Intel Xeon E5-2687W v3 Haswell 3.1GHz so bad and water coool the heck out of it and add 300 FSB or 400 FSB and downclock memory and add water kit for memory tighting the memory rams ups in the timing and bump the voltage on CPU and memory and then little bit of voltage for the Chipset and water cool it too. And have 2 black titian video card in Sli and water cooled would be nice system. I skip the 2nd grey slot PCIe- 3.0x16 but the 3rd one for the 2nd card and add your tripple slot in for the SLI biggrin.gif
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You mean why aren't they making an 8x8gb package? Probably figuring "why bother, they can order two packages" instead of having them manufacture a new package and such, most likely.

There are practical reasons behind this: consumer DDR4 RAM is new and expensive, thus the market for 2 or 4 sticks is much bigger than for 8 sticks. But there is at least one company which offers 8x8GB packs. These packs are listed in various webshops in EUrope but are not available yet, probably coming soon. Regarding the 16GB DDR4 sticks they are not available yet. What is available are 16GB ECC RDIMM server sticks which work with the X99 boards running Xeon processors, and 8 such sticks can be inserted.
Edited by wirk - 10/20/14 at 2:48am
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Hi all,

My 1st post on this thread and 2nd on the site. Glad to be getting back into this as I had not built a new rig since 2009 with an X58 and i7-920.

So here I am, one week into the X99-E WS with the i7-5960X. This is exciting. The memory is 16GB of G.Skill F4-3200C16Q, rated 3200 @ 16-16-16-36, 1.35v.

Here's the main thing I've learned so far overclocking this board: don't bother with the 100MHz strap, go straight to the 125 strap and start from there! I don't know about everybody else's DDR4, but this 4x4GB of G.Skill that I'm using really did not appreciate the 100 strap at all. All of my progress so far has been after I realized that and strapped on up.

I'm still in the early stages but I tonight I reached this point by manual adjustment:

125 strap
BCLK to 127
CPU ratio 35 --> 4444.4 MHz, a very nice square number wink.gif
Cache ratio 31 --> 3937 MHz
DRAM --> 2794 MHz

All of the above on auto voltages with no other special settings. Next up, I will try the 167 strap for a while, and will start tweaking voltages. I don't mind if I don't get a whole lot faster speeds, but I really want to dial the voltage down. This set of speeds is drawing nearly twice the wattage compared to running it at 3900MHz at 100x39.

Bottom line so far, though: don't waste time on the 100 strap! The bad 100 strap is the cause of all the people posting about how their expensive high speed memory doesn't want to POST above 2400!
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Really the only real advantage to the 100 strap is that you can use adaptive voltage with it. If you go with any of the other strap options, you can use offset voltage but it is not as good as the adaptive.

Edit,

So I was playing BF4 last night and I noticed that he PCH area on this board gets pretty hot. Not like so hot that I can't touch it, but uncomfortably hot. I had to put a spare fan right there to blow constant air across it. It would be nice to put a water block on that thing for sure! smile.gif
Edited by Canis-X - 10/20/14 at 7:52am
   
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Originally Posted by Canis-X View Post

Really the only real advantage to the 100 strap is that you can use adaptive voltage with it. If you go with any of the other strap options, you can use offset voltage but it is not as good as the adaptive.

Edit,

So I was playing BF4 last night and I noticed that he PCH area on this board gets pretty hot. Not like so hot that I can't touch it, but uncomfortably hot. I had to put a spare fan right there to blow constant air across it. It would be nice to put a water block on that thing for sure! smile.gif
How hot?
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How hot?

I didn't get a measurement, only felt it with my hands and it was hot to the touch, but not bad enough to burn you. I'll have to look to see if one of the sensors measures the PCH temp or not and if not tape one of my temp sensors to it so that I can monitor it both with and without the fan blowing on it.
   
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