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I want to be able to use the Windows 10 AMD drivers from the Windows Update Program. That's what I installed. No crossfire section in CCC. The reason why you've got CFX working is because you downgraded to 14.12 CCC by the sounds of it.

Yes I did. In fact I got the rest of my MB drivers from the Asus website...

These Win 10 drivers cramp my performance...
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i came to windows 10 , i saw it, and then i ran away as fast as i could. this is no longer an OS in my opinion, this contraption does all kinds of things that do not belong in an Operating System.

a good indication as to how technology is being used not for our purpose or reasons. it appears microsoft thinks they own our hardware and us with it.

it shows that once company's get to big they should be dismantled. somehow they think they become the highest power and can dictate anything.
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i came to windows 10 , i saw it, and then i ran away as fast as i could. this is no longer an OS in my opinion, this contraption does all kinds of things that do not belong in an Operating System.

a good indication as to how technology is being used not for our purpose or reasons. it appears microsoft thinks they own our hardware and us with it.

it shows that once company's get to big they should be dismantled. somehow they think they become the highest power and can dictate anything.

If there's anything specific that you want changed, that's what the Feedback app is for. Just keep in mind they can't make an OS looks and behaves exactly like every single person on the planet wants. In the end, it's a matter of finding out what most people want.
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i came to windows 10 , i saw it, and then i ran away as fast as i could. this is no longer an OS in my opinion, this contraption does all kinds of things that do not belong in an Operating System.

a good indication as to how technology is being used not for our purpose or reasons. it appears microsoft thinks they own our hardware and us with it.

it shows that once company's get to big they should be dismantled. somehow they think they become the highest power and can dictate anything.

if you saw "Pirates of Silicon Valley" since before msft became a public company
it was all about selling copies\licences of windows, if there wasn't something new or improved we be still on v4

long ago the first thing that didn't belong was the internet Explorer
it lead to years of patches, code fixing, fire walls, new intrusions, defacing, probing, etc etc

long before that it was the internet itself
we get hackers, key-loggers, re-tracers, US\Europe companies disappearing, Asian\Russian companies appearing, etc

still what really doesn't belong are programs that dominate the resources of the OS
that's what I see is application out of compliance
if you can't feed it all the memory or cpu time it wants when it wants it it will grind until something gives out

I had one app that did that ... UEFI choked n lost track of how to boot win 8 or win 10
I checked the uefi bios n found nothing wrong but somehow just saving it again was good enough to get the rebooting to work again
if I knew this the first time it happen I'd wouldn't been re-installing the os

msft has much work to get their UEFI interface as resilient as the bios interface ever was

beware of apps that has never been rewritten to take up the new rules of app compliance
some how Windows might choke

perhaps some time soon win 10.1 will come out .. some how creating new tech needs a new frame work or new gears to make wonderful thing happen
old tech sometimes can't stay the same

what doesn't belong in the os is breaking something that worked fine before
it was fine in win7 but win8 n up the problem is there
it will take the laws of major vs minor issue before that issue gets fixed

the os is always an example of work in progress
the rarest issues that are always fix last
Edited by hhuey5 - 5/19/15 at 5:25pm
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if you saw "Pirates of Silicon Valley" since before msft became a public company
it was all about selling copies\licences of windows, if there wasn't something new or improved we be still on v4

long ago the first thing that didn't belong was the internet Explorer
it lead to years of patches, code fixing, fire walls, new intrusions, defacing, probing, etc etc

long before that it was the internet itself
we get hackers, key-loggers, re-tracers, US\Europe companies disappearing, Asian\Russian companies appearing, etc

still what really doesn't belong are programs that dominate the resources of the OS
that's what I see is application out of compliance
if you can't feed it all the memory or cpu time it wants when it wants it it will grind until something gives out

I had one app that did that ... UEFI choked n lost track of how to boot win 8 or win 10
I checked the uefi bios n found nothing wrong but somehow just saving it again was good enough to get the rebooting to work again
if I knew this the first time it happen I'd wouldn't been re-installing the os

msft has much work to get their UEFI interface as resilient as the bios interface ever was

beware of apps that has never been rewritten to take up the new rules of app compliance
some how Windows might choke

perhaps some time soon win 10.1 will come out .. some how creating new tech needs a new frame work or new gears to make wonderful thing happen
old tech sometimes can't stay the same

what doesn't belong in the os is breaking something that worked fine before
it was fine in win7 but win8 n up the problem is there
it will take the laws of major vs minor issue before that issue gets fixed

the os is always an example of work in progress
the rarest issues that are always fix last

10-4 Brother!

I have Dual Boot with 2 separate SSD's, one w/ 7 Ultimate & one w/ 10 Pro. What a freaking difference!

Windows 10 takes over my hardware, or seems to, installing all these lousy Microsoft Half-A$$ed drivers.

It has been Idiot Proofed IMHO - Difficult to access what was once easy to access (takes several steps to change settings as opposed to a single step) No better than Win 8 or 8.1...

I just bought a laptop w/ 8.1 and am seriously considering putting 7 Pro on it...

Someday though I'll have to get used to it when 7 is no longer supported!
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10-4 Brother!

I have Dual Boot with 2 separate SSD's, one w/ 7 Ultimate & one w/ 10 Pro. What a freaking difference!

Windows 10 takes over my hardware, or seems to, installing all these lousy Microsoft Half-A$$ed drivers.

It has been Idiot Proofed IMHO - Difficult to access what was once easy to access (takes several steps to change settings as opposed to a single step) No better than Win 8 or 8.1...

I just bought a laptop w/ 8.1 and am seriously considering putting 7 Pro on it...

Someday though I'll have to get used to it when 7 is no longer supported!

oh I have my mom computer booting up with either XP or Win7 by just switch the bios reference
I don't want to go through the win boot manager and maybe lose the ability to boot one (or both) of them up

yeah you took the words right out of my mouth ...

but the designers have deviated from the notion of "Making Life Easier"

ie: I can't use the gui to make a link to the scheduler that would save many steps to bringing it up
I'd have to resort to finding the name of that exe and make the link

if I had to compare windows to the other brand ... windows has made life easier
I don't need to worry about all those setting to make something work
I don't have to run into gui that was counter intuitive

yes many have bought Win8 family n went to something that was easier
so you got five years to make the transition to Win X

I like Win 8.1 Update but I don't like Win 10 start thingy
its like we got to learn another thing we're not use to

thats why we're given sneek peeks
change is coming ...

the old is kicked out ... transition is made badly

gosh if it was smooth then all those programs I wrote in the ancient days would not have been lost
Edited by hhuey5 - 5/19/15 at 7:36pm
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oh I have my mom computer booting up with either XP or Win7 by just switch the bios reference
I don't want to go through the win boot manager and maybe lose the ability to boot one (or both) of them up

If you can make a Linux boot CD like the Ubuntu install disc, you can use that to install the GRUB boot loader at least, allowing you to have a customizable boot menu the way you want it.

I do agree with the sentiment against the use of Microsoft drivers trumping user-installed ones, but do note that right now, Windows 10 is a beta test. They want you using their stuff so they can fix issues that crop up. This may change for release.

I'm personally for the system right now myself; I know a lot of folks disagree because they're changing systems unnecessarily and adding bloat. But thus far the changes, at least the majority, have been to improve the user experience, even if not all change was for the best (read: restrictive if you don't know the workarounds). It's definitely more polished than it was at start, back when it was just a Windows 8.1 clone. Still looking forward to it, especially now that they're just gonna focus on 10 and fix it for the foreseeable future. Hopefully.
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If you can make a Linux boot CD like the Ubuntu install disc, you can use that to install the GRUB boot loader at least, allowing you to have a customizable boot menu the way you want it.

I do agree with the sentiment against the use of Microsoft drivers trumping user-installed ones, but do note that right now, Windows 10 is a beta test. They want you using their stuff so they can fix issues that crop up. This may change for release.

I'm personally for the system right now myself; I know a lot of folks disagree because they're changing systems unnecessarily and adding bloat. But thus far the changes, at least the majority, have been to improve the user experience, even if not all change was for the best (read: restrictive if you don't know the workarounds). It's definitely more polished than it was at start, back when it was just a Windows 8.1 clone. Still looking forward to it, especially now that they're just gonna focus on 10 and fix it for the foreseeable future. Hopefully.

thanks for the info but my mom hasn't ask for anything that was needed in the old OS

in general, when a new product is made, the maker would like to make very little goodwill changes in order to make a good profit
ie: the motherboard has very few bios updates
ie: the OEM card where you can't update the driver\bios that would fix a problem because its a locked version
whereas the flagship product gets all the updates n bios changes because its still a seller

its a new CEO, it's said he done well in what he did for the company ... we'd have to give him a chance to see if he can do it as CEO

my bro said that to me about apple CEO ... he finally made the stock worth more but apple is no longer the world innovator
my other brother says tesla is more like a parts assembler than an innovator of Electric Cars

that paradigm that MSFT needs to change was wasting money, time, and resources when developing a new OS or the next big thing
one of my jobs its CEO wasted all that rather than making the company bigger ... it was only about making his pot of gold bigger
plus its his money to waste than letting someone else waste it for him

gosh everything is not about innovation ... its another way to make good for the stockholder ... the profit
everything is the cloud ... software as a service

you notice mobile is more expensive and profitable than desktop

yet I never seen anyone with a MSFT mobile phone or tablet
I never owned a tablet, I like too but I feel a tablet should not cost as much as a laptop or desktop
I'd like a MSFT compatible tablet or Two in One but it lacks a GPS like Android n iPad does.

but whats a big hold back is that intel will be changing the mobile tech that impacts MSFT products
that probably make 2016\17 an interesting year for computing
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10-4 Brother!

I have Dual Boot with 2 separate SSD's, one w/ 7 Ultimate & one w/ 10 Pro. What a freaking difference!

Windows 10 takes over my hardware, or seems to, installing all these lousy Microsoft Half-A$$ed drivers.

It has been Idiot Proofed IMHO - Difficult to access what was once easy to access (takes several steps to change settings as opposed to a single step) No better than Win 8 or 8.1...

I just bought a laptop w/ 8.1 and am seriously considering putting 7 Pro on it...

Someday though I'll have to get used to it when 7 is no longer supported!

familiarize yourself with W8/W10's shortcut keys
"Win + X + (letter of your choice)"

I'm back on W7 now and I miss the heck out of that little Win+X menu.

Just in case you didn't know - the underlined letter indicates the shortcut key to hit.

(Win+X+A) - CMD (with administrative privilege)

(Win+X+P) - Control Panel

(Win+X+F) - Windows Programs and Features

etc etc
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familiarize yourself with W8/W10's shortcut keys
"Win + X + (letter of your choice)"

I'm back on W7 now and I miss the heck out of that little Win+X menu.

Just in case you didn't know - the underlined letter indicates the shortcut key to hit.

(Win+X+A) - CMD (with administrative privilege)

(Win+X+P) - Control Panel

(Win+X+F) - Windows Programs and Features

etc etc

Thanks for the tips! But for now I'm probably going to 7 on my laptop.

I'll keep the dual Boot, 7/10, on my main Rig...
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