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Update Windows 10 Insider Preview October Update for x64-based Systems (KB3105208) is a nightmare.

If you installed it and now your system doesn't boot you can do one of two things: disable Secure Boot or run dism /image:C:\ /cleanup-image /revertpendingactions which will revert the update.

Than just sit tight as re-enabling Secure Boot after installing KB3105208 causes Windows to not boot after the update is installed successfully after disabling Secure Boot.

I spent hours last night trying to figure out why my system suddenly won't boot to Windows 10 unless I disable Secure Boot. You may have just saved me hours of headaches again tonight. thumb.gif

So, I guess the options are to either leave Secure Boot disabled for now, or uninstall and hide update KB3105208?

And the saga of Secure Boot continues. mad.gif
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 10/23/15 at 9:06am
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Hey, I'm back here to post my impressions after using W10 Privacy for just a couple of hours on Win 10 Pro 10565 TP. Ain't gonna write much, no real interest for such matters, as it seems...

It works. I wouldn't say that it works great but it does work. With this tool I have managed to prevent what I am showing happening on my post #6245. I could not prevent this when using the HOSTS file quoted in that post - not even the 0.0.0.0 version of it could prevent it. Windows is by-passing the HOSTS file.

What prevented it was setting the Telemetry tab in W10 Privacy like this:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

So, you need to create Firewall rules. They seem to not get by-passed by the OS (yet?).

Regarding these Windows Firewall rules, here's what you will discover after hovering the mouse over any of them:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Personally, I choose to apply all of them. So far, I have not faced any issue with any website.


Then I have applied these settings on my main installation of 10. Afterwards I deleted the W10 Privacy folder - it does not install - and cleaned the Registry with CCleaner Pro.

I've also performed a System Restore on the TP installation. It worked flawlessly, all the changes W10 Privacy applied have been reverted, and the only thing I had to do was to go to the Store and download all the updates for the Apps. Of course, I'll clean install it tomorrow morning, in less than 20 minutes - drivers included, because I want to be absolutely sure I'll receive TH2 carelessly.


Thank you.
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I guess that is why I have no issues with these updates. I do not think my board is secure boot ready in any way.
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Unfortunately...
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Perhaps it's irrelevant but I'm posting this, as well:
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Thank you for the pfSense in a VM guide. I will give it a try. Since I have never used a VM do you happen to know if there are disadvantages in system's snappiness and to what extend? Pure newbie on this one, thank you.

The only way you can run pfSense meaningfully in a VM is by running it in ESXI. There is no other way to use it as a router and firewall but this does cause issues with passthrough as ESXI lacks GPU hardware support. Thus what you could do is run Windows in Linux (I can give you guides on this) but then that also isn't without issues, the main one being that you will have to troubleshoot a lot when things go wrong (there is no if in this case).

Thus the best way to do it is running ClearOS or pfSense (ClearOS is easier to use and based on CentOS, which is based on Red Hat) on a dedicated router. I am in the process of building one as we speak.
If you mean by ESXI lacks GPU hardware support is that you'll get BSOD when trying to install the drivers, yes. But it does with other OS though. This is I tried years ago though but could have changed since then.

The pfSense thing, it's actually doable though without ESXI. Just install pfSense in VM & re-configure the network adapters.
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I update to 10565 and now the search on start menu don't work!!!

Left click start then left click where you type, there should be a settings icon you can turn on and off web search. So when off and you type something it just searches windows.
You might have done that.

Edited by lilchronic - 10/23/15 at 1:45pm
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To put aside all the "Windows 10 is spying on you" hysteria (hate to break it to everyone but Chrome has telemetry, iOS, Android, and pretty much everything. Heck, even Steam has telemetry for the gamers out there.) to step in for those who are part of the Insider Preview Program. And now back to the regularly scheduled hysteria of "Windows 10 is spying on you..."

I hate to break it to you, but there is nothing to put aside. That's the point so many of you are missing. Everyone already knows all this. There's nothing to school anyone on, nothing to "break" to anyone. We all already know that everything you said and more, is going on. I don't think anyone here thinks that, or isn't aware of what's going on.

What we're talking about, is that unlike so many of you, we shouldn't just 'be cool with it'. And as you can see, many people aren't, or they wouldn't be taking all these measures to be invisible. So if you and your lot are so complacent as to have all your affairs rifled through and thoroughly examined by strangers who don't give a rip about you, then that's your business. The rest of us are going to go ahead and shut that **** off. Which as you can see from this thread, they're doing.
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I see a company that got way too full of its own success and lost ground to the new kids on the block (Apple, Google, etc) and now they've completely changed course under new management. They've evolved. And so far, I'd say it's a bad bet to bet against them. I'd even go so far as to predict that 3 years from now, Windows Mobile will be a major player rivaling Google & Apple.

Using their history (even their recent history) as a guide, I find that pretty unlikely. So now they're the kinder, gentler company who doesn't care about their customers. You can see how well metro worked out for them, and that's very recent. As well as the whole touch screen thing. People have tried it out, sure. Do you know anyone who wants to move their arms all around and sit close to the screen? And xbox 1. You see what happened to them with that. Due to their invasive policies, it was boycotted and very nearly died before it ever took off. This is after "new management" took over. They don't seem to have changed much at all really. Actions speak louder than words.
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I spent hours last night trying to figure out why my system suddenly won't boot to Windows 10 unless I disable Secure Boot. You may have just saved me hours of headaches again tonight. thumb.gif

So, I guess the options are to either leave Secure Boot disabled for now, or uninstall and hide update KB3105208?

And the saga of Secure Boot continues. mad.gif

 

Yeah, you're pretty much left with the option to either leave it installed and disable Secure Boot (and hope MS releases an update to fix that update) or uninstall it and turn Secure Boot back on and wait for Microsoft to pull the update, hide it, or just ignore it.

 

Those getting the BSOD with PROCCESS1_INITIALIZATION_FAILED 0x6B (it's the one related  to the disk subsystem) will benefit from either reverting the pending update through DISM in the recovery environment (boots after 3 crashes; or burn a USB) or just disabling Secure Boot for now.

 

Personally, I just removed the update via DISM and am choosing to ignore it.

 

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I guess that is why I have no issues with these updates. I do not think my board is secure boot ready in any way.

 

Yes, that would be it. I know on my board I enabled Secure Boot after the $15 upgrade to Windows 8 with Media Center. I run Linux in VMs (or on Supermicro servers which is a different use case) and really, of I ever install Linux on a different partition I think all the issues with SB and Linux have been figured out by now. I am just a sucker for eye candy - it's why I like OS X and am always torn about Ubuntu. All my Supermicro servers are RHEL based OSes like well, RHEL, CentOS, etc. so my mind is always there a d things like "apt-get" are foreign to me when it comes to the shell.

 

Seriously, when I was fixing my problem I kept  typing "ls" instead of "dir" wondering why Windows PE wasn't showing me the directory list.

 

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I hate to break it to you, but there is nothing to put aside. That's the point so many of you are missing. Everyone already knows all this. There's nothing to school anyone on, nothing to "break" to anyone. We all already know that everything you said and more, is going on. I don't think anyone here thinks that, or isn't aware of what's going on.

What we're talking about, is that unlike so many of you, we shouldn't just 'be cool with it'. And as you can see, many people aren't, or they wouldn't be taking all these measures to be invisible. So if you and your lot are so complacent as to have all your affairs rifled through and thoroughly examined by strangers who don't give a rip about you, then that's your business. The rest of us are going to go ahead and shut that **** off. Which as you can see from this thread, they're doing.
Using their history (even their recent history) as a guide, I find that pretty unlikely. So now they're the kinder, gentler company who doesn't care about their customers. You can see how well metro worked out for them, and that's very recent. As well as the whole touch screen thing. People have tried it out, sure. Do you know anyone who wants to move their arms all around and sit close to the screen? And xbox 1. You see what happened to them with that. Due to their invasive policies, it was boycotted and very nearly died before it ever took off. This is after "new management" took over. They don't seem to have changed much at all really. Actions speak louder than words.

 

Ah PhotonFanatick, I am just baffled with you and the rest of your lot. Someone said they have CyanogenMod on their phone a few posts back. I guess they didn't realize smartphones are equipped with GPS and my personal favorite: the moment a phone connects to a cellular network it can be tracked whether GPS is on or not by basic methods of measuring signal strength and triangulating for a relative position which occurs on modern cell networks to give you the best service unless a particular tower is overloaded. You must have quite a lot of tin foil hats...

 

Let me end this with a lovely CBS show speech  because it's so fitting (and the show is good):

 

"You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people, people like you. Crimes the government considered "irrelevant." They wouldn't act, so I decided I would. But I needed a partner, someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You'll never find us, but victim or perpetrator, if your number's up... we'll find [you]." :D 


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Left click start then left click where you type, there should be a settings icon you can turn on and off web search. So when off and you type something it just searches windows.
You might have done that.

When I click start don't shows any apace to write, and if I activate the search box I can't write on it!! I click like crazy, but nothing happens, I think I'm going to back to a previous version ^^
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To put aside all the "Windows 10 is spying on you" hysteria (hate to break it to everyone but Chrome has telemetry, iOS, Android, and pretty much everything. Heck, even Steam has telemetry for the gamers out there.) to step in for those who are part of the Insider Preview Program.

Update Windows 10 Insider Preview October Update for x64-based Systems (KB3105208) is a nightmare.

If you installed it and now your system doesn't boot you can do one of two things: disable Secure Boot or run dism /image:C:\ /cleanup-image /revertpendingactions which will revert the update.

Than just sit tight as re-enabling Secure Boot after installing KB3105208 causes Windows to not boot after the update is installed successfully after disabling Secure Boot.

And now back to the regularly scheduled hysteria of "Windows 10 is spying on you..."

I am getting a missing operating system error upon boot, and there doesn't seem to be a dam thing I can do about it now. I never had secure boot enabled so I can't try that option, but how do I run dism /image :C: without being able to get into the OS?
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I am getting a missing operating system error upon boot, and there doesn't seem to be a dam thing I can do about it now. I never had secure boot enabled so I can't try that option, but how do I run dism /image :C: without being able to get into the OS?

 

If you're getting a missing operating system error upon boot rather than the PROCESS1_INITIALIZATION_FAILED (0x6b Blue Screen), than you are likely experiencing a totally different issue that what the update is causing to those of us who are using Secure Boot.

 

With another computer, login to the Windows Insider Program with your Microsoft Account and just download the 10565 ISO and burn it to either a USB Flash Drive or a DVD. Than boot the problematic computer off the USB or DVD Drive, select your language, and as per the norm: just go to the "Repair Your Computer" option instead of the install option.

 

That should launch Startup Recovery.

 

You can try the "Automatic/Startup Repair" and see if it'll take care of it for you (usually does these days); otherwise you'll need to rewrite the Windows Boot Loader through the Command Prompt under "Advanced Repair Options."

 

Just lookup how to use bcdedit and/or bcrec which contains the commands required to rewrite the Windows boot block.

 

However, what you are experiencing is a totally different issue from what I brought up and what everyone using Secure Boot is experiencing.

 

I assume you already made sure your computer is booting the "Windows Boot Manager" from your UEFI? 

 

If for some reason bcdedit and/or bcrec can't find your operating system you'll likely need to ensure through the Command Prompt that the Windows partition is marked active (don't have the instructions on me but Bing or Google can find them in two seconds).

 

There could be a number of reasons why your computer is reporting no operating system but it's not a known issue from that update. 

    
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