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Originally Posted by subassy View Post

I've never understood the point of hibernate as powering up is as fast or faster than waking from hibernate.

But if you really want to hibernate, navigate to:
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\Edit Plan Settings
And go to Change advanced power settings
Some where in there are the hibernation settings (I think the exact location varies depending if your device has a battery and other variables).

http://www.techthagaval.com/how-to-save-computer-power-without-close-running-applications/
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Sleep Mode Vs Hibernate

Sleep mode is used for save the power options without close all your running application. Sleep mode is getting less amount of power. If you disconnected power to your computer, it will shut down without save any data. After that you can resume your running application. Basically sleep mode is temporarily lock the computer.

Hibernate saves all running application without get power, even your computer unplugged from the power. After resume the computer it will open all your running data.

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post #7492 of 8645
Sleep is suspend to RAM which is volatile memory and as such cannot survive a power disconnection

Hibernate is Suspend to Disk which is non volatile and as such can survive power disconnection

Sleep has everything in RAM and can resume quickly as only the CPu must power up, the BUS starts moving, and the CPU cache begins loading data and processing

Suspend to disk requires the hibernate file, a image of the ram state before hibernation, to be dumped back to ram, I.e. your ram size directly effects hibernation time, as does disk speed

Hibernation resuming on a SATA III ssd will be very quick vs a rotating 5400rpm drive on SATA I


Hope this easy explanation in plain English helps

To reply to not understanding the point of hibernate compared to sleep or powering up, a business man may be on a bus or plane, he is using his laptop that was in sleep mode in his bag during security or his commute with important spreadsheets and proposals open. In mid flight he hits 2% battery, instead of frantically saving all his work closing everything and shutting down, he simply hibernates. His battery dies in his bag during the rest of the flight. Once he arrives at his hotel, he then can plug his laptop in, and power up, and its like nothing happened
Edited by GENXLR - 6/30/16 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by GENXLR View Post

Hi everyone! Instead of making anew thread about this, I'd like to ask all of you in the Windows 10 Club

I'm a strong windows 7 user. I loved it day on and all my machines run Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and are toyed with a bit, mostly using rainmeter

So I have been for 6 months now on and off deciding if I should jump the gun for windows 10

I hear it has DX12 which is great for multicore(and multi CPU) machines. It has a lot of performance boosts, a professional looking UI, good boot time, good power management, and a boatload of extra goodies

I also hear unless you get enterprise which requires a lot of effort(unless we go the illegal way but that's not for discussion on this forum) updates are forced, and on top of forced updates, they try and force using Microsoft logins, however I know I can use a local but this disables some features I'd like. I assume I can get around so using external applications but still. Also was curious about all the hullabaloo regarding this privacy crap.


I'm stuck on the fence and don't know, anyone have any advice. I use my laptops and most of my workstations for professional use but there's some gaming and internet surfing involved, but usually its video editing, photo editing, digital art and modeling, some programming, music stuff, blah blah. So if you have any advice please give it. My new laptop arrives Friday and I want to know what to install!

 

You don't need the Enterprise version for that, the Pro version is enough. I use that myself :thumb:

post #7494 of 8645
Does anyone notice that Win8.1 has less quirks than Win 10?

Is this next big version gonna fix those quirks?

I've been holding out my win 8.1 desktop but got all my laptops on win 10
got an old dual p3 desktop that will never see win10
post #7495 of 8645
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Does anyone notice that Win8.1 has less quirks than Win 10?

Is this next big version gonna fix those quirks?

I've been holding out my win 8.1 desktop but got all my laptops on win 10
got an old dual p3 desktop that will never see win10
Can you list some of the glitches? They have made quite a few changes that are being readied for the anniversary build release.
Since I am on insider builds, If you tell me things it does wrong, I can see if they are working properly.

Windows 10, like most other versions released with plenty of bugs(wish they had waited a bit longer).
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Can you list some of the glitches? They have made quite a few changes that are being readied for the anniversary build release.
Since I am on insider builds, If you tell me things it does wrong, I can see if they are working properly.

Windows 10, like most other versions released with plenty of bugs(wish they had waited a bit longer).

I've kept all my laptops updated to non-fast ring publish updates
my laptop has i7 mobile 16gb ram and yet this compress memory thing runs, I expected it only runs on like 2-3gb laptops but 16gb laptop
also notice on certain apps its using one core at 2.6 ghz instead of all cores at 2.2ghz

I notice when Start starts to be unresponsive its time to do full reboot

when doing RDS its not as good as win7 \ win8.1 RDS connection

when video quirks it seems to be time to reboot and everything becomes ok

I think I had a better experience w win 7 n Win 8.1 than Win 10

I just hope when I have the courage to upgrade my desktop to Win 10 that my prime apps aren't affected
and hope it runs fine on 32gb ram 4790K z97 mb
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post

You don't need the Enterprise version for that, the Pro version is enough. I use that myself thumb.gif
oh, well if that's the case, that's better, next step, figuring out if its worth it to me
post #7498 of 8645
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Originally Posted by subassy View Post

I've never understood the point of hibernate as powering up is as fast or faster than waking from hibernate.

But if you really want to hibernate, navigate to:
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\Edit Plan Settings
And go to Change advanced power settings
Some where in there are the hibernation settings (I think the exact location varies depending if your device has a battery and other variables).
" powering up is as fast or faster than waking from hibernate. "
what?
you are telling me hibernating takes longer to wake up than turning your computer on? maybe if you have a ssd (which I doubt still).
that didn't work neither, but I think I found out how to do it.
lol
Edited by daunow - 6/30/16 at 1:29pm
post #7499 of 8645
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Originally Posted by GENXLR View Post

Sleep is suspend to RAM which is volatile memory and as such cannot survive a power disconnection

Hibernate is Suspend to Disk which is non volatile and as such can survive power disconnection

Sleep has everything in RAM and can resume quickly as only the CPu must power up, the BUS starts moving, and the CPU cache begins loading data and processing

Suspend to disk requires the hibernate file, a image of the ram state before hibernation, to be dumped back to ram, I.e. your ram size directly effects hibernation time, as does disk speed

Hibernation resuming on a SATA III ssd will be very quick vs a rotating 5400rpm drive on SATA I


Hope this easy explanation in plain English helps

To reply to not understanding the point of hibernate compared to sleep or powering up, a business man may be on a bus or plane, he is using his laptop that was in sleep mode in his bag during security or his commute with important spreadsheets and proposals open. In mid flight he hits 2% battery, instead of frantically saving all his work closing everything and shutting down, he simply hibernates. His battery dies in his bag during the rest of the flight. Once he arrives at his hotel, he then can plug his laptop in, and power up, and its like nothing happened

    Great explanation.  I would like to add a couple of thoughts:

  • By default, Windows 10 has Hybrid sleep enabled.  When entering standby, hybrid sleep saves the contents of RAM to the disk as if entering hibernation, but doesn't switch the power off afterwards like hibernation does.  This allows the computer to wake from standby instantly as usual, while also allowing it to wake from hibernation if power is lost while sleeping.  This feature comes in very handy for laptops that run out of juice while sleeping.  It also makes the computer take several seconds to enter standby (watch closely next time—you'll see Windows turn the display off so that it looks like your computer is sleeping, while it will remain on for several seconds saving RAM to the disk).  Windows does the same trick when shutting down a Fast Startup enabled system (that's because Fast Startup essentially closes all running programs, leaves you at the login screen, and then puts your computer into hibernation).
  • The average PC uses 3–10 watts when turned off or hibernating (same power consumption for either mode).  Standby only adds 0.4 to 2 watts to that figure, so go ahead and use it.  Your computer is just about as good as completely shut down anyway.
  • Unless you have a ton of RAM, resuming from hibernation is faster than a fresh boot.  @subassy Keep in mind that you might be thinking of a Fast Startup boot instead of a fresh boot.  A fast boot is in fact a resume from hibernation, just with less stuff running and less RAM saved to the disk.

Edited by Techie007 - 6/30/16 at 1:58pm
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Guys,

I just did a clean install of Windows 10 Pro on my Uber Rig and it will NOT let me install the Nvidia drivers for the GPUs! mad.gif

I tried redownloading it several times from the Nvidia website to no avail.

It keeps saying "this driver is not compatible with this version of Windows."

PLEASE HELP!
     
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