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I just moved over my steam games(well i mklinked them from my load of 7 to 10). Steam just had to run the first time launch(install .net or other required libraries) on most and that seemed to be it.

I would ensure you have Windows 10 driver support for sure.

If you are worried, it may be worth making an image of your current Windows 7 setup so you can go back if needed.
Yeah seems there's no harm in trying.
    
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Guys I need your input. Is it worth the upgrade? What will I have to change software / driver wise? I'm guessing I'll have to verify my game cache to get some working, but any big reason to hesitate?

For me having a i7 2600K, Asrock Z68 Mobo and R9 280 - for any and all OS activities I noted around a 10% performance hit with things just being slightly more (but noticeably) snappy. Also I find the Video and Audio is clearer and crisper.

All my games, music and DATA are on a separate HDD and after doing a fresh install on my SSD I then sought the Video, Chipset and Audio drivers for my graphics card and the mobo (so 3 in total) and system is running as it should be.

Win10 has matured and the vast majority of bugs have been resolved so there is no reason to hold of anymore.
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For me having a i7 2600K, Asrock Z68 Mobo and R9 280 - for any and all OS activities I noted around a 10% performance hit with things just being slightly more (but noticeably) snappy. Also I find the Video and Audio is clearer and crisper.

All my games, music and DATA are on a separate HDD and after doing a fresh install on my SSD I then sought the Video, Chipset and Audio drivers for my graphics card and the mobo (so 3 in total) and system is running as it should be.

Win10 has matured and the vast majority of bugs have been resolved so there is no reason to hold of anymore.

A 10% performance hit...that you detected...but you meant a 10% performance increase...without any data. Neat. Your hardware didn't change, your audio/video is the same smile.gif.

Win10 definitely boots fast, and I haven't had any compatibility issues thus far. I really hate posts like the above about 10%.
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@Jaydev16 - I found later equipment (NUC's) need a whole suite of drivers updated for the Win7>Win10 transition and they need to be reviewed at least monthly (but this is more a "new device issue" getting new drivers created rather than being specific to Win10).

There is a major flaw that still exists with Win10 that has been acknowledged by them - Windows 10 automatic updates will keep (over) reinstalling driver loop.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930?utm_source=twitter

That is you install a devices driver (for example Realtek Audio Driver) and although this is "successful" during the process the Win10 Automatic update feature keeps over/reinstalling the same driver in a cyclic loop that doesn't stop - for example we can note from one of my NUC's that there are "several" Hardware Drivers that have become stuck in the loop. By opening the Reliability Monitor I could see this update cyclic loop occurring with the same Drivers being "reinstalled" up to 4 times throughout that day for the same device, this was also occurring for the Intel HD Graphics driver, etc:


Issue: after any Audio or Video driver updates Windows want's to restart - this kept happening with this NUC and at one stage it froze the NIC (no wireless connection).

This seems to be partially because although the driver install may pass Microsoft Driver Signature verification the installed drivers can exist in an "unknown" state and MS tries to keep updating this unknown driver, in the below example the Intel Serial IO driver is currently unknown:


Reviewing the same driver in the Win10 Programs and Features we can clearly see that the version history for that driver matches the previously noted "unknown" Intel Serial IO driver:


How to Geek shows hot you can start addressing this issue whilst also using the "wushowhide.diagcab" tool from Microsoft.
http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

Pro-tip: after a fresh install of Windows 10 keep reviewing the Reliability Monitor and look for those noted reinstall driver loops. That is the same driver being reinstalled over and over again.
Edited by Bold Eagle - 7/14/16 at 12:54pm
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Dang it. This latest cumulative update is a headache. KB3172985 My desktop is fine but a laptop failed it like 10 times in a row. And it keeps downloading downloading. The worst part is it's a 900mb download. Windows update at its finest.... to annoy.
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Dang it. This latest cumulative update is a headache. KB3172985 My desktop is fine but a laptop failed it like 10 times in a row. And it keeps downloading downloading. The worst part is it's a 900mb download. Windows update at its finest.... to annoy.

Try the MS tool linked above:
http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

Sometimes that can block certain MS Updates as well.
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8280-windows-updates-hide-show-windows-10-a.html
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Try the MS tool linked above:
http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

Sometimes that can block certain MS Updates as well.
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8280-windows-updates-hide-show-windows-10-a.html

Well, it's a friend's laptop and I think the problem was shutting down the computer before WU could finish update or install. I let the computer sit for 3 hours and finally it's done with the updates. The machine was completely killing slow (fair usage/quota up) internet in its surrounding biggrin.gif I think wifi is not enabled as metered. I'll check and set it. I never liked Windows Updating, 900 mb update failing means WU/AU can't handle resumes and interruptions, and it's a laptop, it'll be interrupted all the time, it's mobile, there's no gaurantee it'll always be around internet connection.
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Well, it's a friend's laptop and I think the problem was shutting down the computer before WU could finish update or install. I let the computer sit for 3 hours and finally it's done with the updates. The machine was completely killing slow (fair usage/quota up) internet in its surrounding biggrin.gif I think wifi is not enabled as metered. I'll check and set it. I never liked Windows Updating, 900 mb update failing means WU/AU can't handle resumes and interruptions, and it's a laptop, it'll be interrupted all the time, it's mobile, there's no gaurantee it'll always be around internet connection.

    It was killing the Internet because Windows Update usually does 40-slice downloads.  Absolutely insane and extremely annoying!  What's worse, it uses port 80 just like regular web traffic and so I am unable to write a QoS rule on networks to keep Windows Update from hogging all the bandwidth for itself.
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Latest update killed my display driver. This was understandable in the technical preview but in the official update, NO. I'm about to go back to 7 on this thing where I have actual control over my machine and everything actually works. I might even get a back-up copy of 7 pro for my beast machine in case any selected parts bring forth these driver issue nonsense mad.gif

I CANNOT have my laptop without proper scaling on the HDMI and since the backend kills of catalyst
Edited by JakdMan - 7/15/16 at 10:26pm
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Latest update killed my display driver. This was understandable in the technical preview but in the official update, NO. I'm about to go back to 7 on this thing where I have actual control over my machine and everything actually works. I might even get a back-up copy of 7 pro for my beast machine in case any selected parts bring forth these driver issue nonsense mad.gif

I CANNOT have my laptop without proper scaling on the HDMI and since the backend kills of catalyst

This made me despise Win10 as well in the first 6months - but I suggest you try two steps and then see if that resolves the issue before going back.

http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

Disable Automatic Download of Drivers from Windows Update
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There’s still a “Never install driver software from Windows Update” option in the final version of Windows 10, buried in the old Control Panel.

Prevent a Driver or Update From Being Installed from Windows Update

I am trialing it now on one of my NUC's as noted above.
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