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and even if i never mess with it and use it wiithout any upgrading will it still be the best cooler for the $?

This one is

 

 

 

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post #82 of 109
If you can expand this unit then it's really meant to compete with install kits like XSPC.
Which surprisingly is a good thing because the current AIO coolers are nearly the same price as install kits with no expandabliity.
This is why I never recommend AIO coolers.
Pick up a cheap Cooler Master Hyper for $20-30 and save up for an expandable kit with good materials included.

So the question is does the included pump, block, and rad limit it to where the XSPC kits are superior?

The block has a lot of competition because even the lowest XSPC kit has a VERY good block.
The pumps on the lowest XSPC kits aren't THAT great so it might actually compete there.
The rads I imagine would compete too.

I guess what I'm saying is that when you can get a Raystorm 750 EX280 for $20 more, why not?
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 10/21/14 at 8:56pm
post #83 of 109
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If you can expand this unit then it's really meant to compete with install kits like XSPC.
Which surprisingly is a good thing because the current AIO coolers are nearly the same price as install kits with no expandabliity.
This is why I never recommend AIO coolers.
Pick up a cheap Cooler Master Hyper for $20-30 and save up for an expandable kit with good materials included.

So the question is does the included pump, block, and rad limit it to where the XSPC kits are superior?

The block has a lot of competition because even the lowest XSPC kit has a VERY good block.
The pumps on the lowest XSPC kits aren't THAT great so it might actually compete there.
The rads I imagine would compete too.

I guess what I'm saying is that when you can get a Raystorm 750 EX280 for $20 more, why not?

You forget that custom loops require you to have actual skills to put together. AIOs on the other hand are simply plug and play and can get away with being almost the same price as an XSPC kit because of this. Not to mention the XSPC kits are really not the way to do custom loops IMO.
 
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post #84 of 109
If you can mount the CPU cooler to the CPU then you can surely cut/mount some tubing to the ports, pour some distilled water into the res, and put a drop of biocide in the water.

There is very little extra to be done.
I would know I have installed a XSPC kit myself just recently.
I had put it off for so long due to this idiotic myth.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 10/21/14 at 9:13pm
post #85 of 109
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If you can mount the CPU cooler to the CPU then you can surely cut/mount some tubing to the ports, pour some distilled water into the res, and put a drop of biocide in the water.

There is very little extra to be done.
I would know I have installed a XSPC kit myself just recently.
I had put it off for so long due to this idiotic myth.

Plan loop
Assemble loop
test loop
disassemble loop
re-assemble loop with parts in place

vs

mount radiator and attach cpu block (and if you have a cutout no disassembling required in an already built rig)

I've assembled an XSPC kit myself. Infinitely more work than attaching an AIO and not even that much of a performance increase over the Swiftech units.
 
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post #86 of 109
Your spending a lot more time on the custom loop ensuring it doesn't leak when the AIO is not garunteed to be leak proof either.
Not to mention you don't need to mount, or disassemble either to test it for leaks.
Assemble once outside of case and then install the parts while loop is assembled just as you do the AIO.

Plan Loop = +5min
Assemble Loop = +10min
Mount Loop.

vs

Mount Loop.

Are you really arguing that at most an hour of time makes an AIO much better than an XSPC kit?
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 10/21/14 at 9:25pm
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Your spending a lot more time on the custom loop ensuring it doesn't leak when the AIO is not garunteed to be leak proof either.

Plan Loop = +5min
Assemble Loop = +10min
Mount Loop.

vs

Mount Loop.

Are you really arguing that at most an hour of time makes an AIO much better than an XSPC kit?

Maybe if you're an expert at building loops those times are correct. Otherwise your typical PC builder is gonna need multiple hours to build a loop even from an XSPC kit. An AIO is a heck of a lot more guaranteed to be leak proof then a novice loop builders work is.
 
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I did a ninja edit on you. Sorry.

I guess I just don't see much difficulty in installing a DIY kit from a user who can already install a CPU block to a CPU which is IMO the hardest part of the entire build process.

I mean obviously it's a "thing" because millions of people buy AIO over DIY.
I just believe it's a myth.

I have only installed one DIY kit and I honestly don't remember any time difference vs installing my dreaded H100i.
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I did a ninja edit on you. Sorry.

I guess I just don't see much difficulty in installing a DIY kit from a user who can already install a CPU block to a CPU which is IMO the hardest part of the entire build process.

I mean obviously it's a "thing" because millions of people buy AIO over DIY.
I just believe it's a myth.

I have only installed one DIY kit and I honestly don't remember any time difference vs installing my dreaded H100i.

Building computers doesn't really require much skill outside of being able to read and use a screw driver in this day and age. The only thing that really requires the user to have any kind of "skill" would be doing a clean professional looking build.

Building a custom loop actually requires "craft" style skills that your regular old PC builder might not have (as they aren't really necessary for just building a PC).

I've personally always found it was much easier to just use an AIO. When I originally had a custom loop going, I went to do some light maintenance on my PC and ended up having a leak disaster that involved me sitting there with tubing in my hand draining water into a cup which I then poured onto a towel on the floor in order to avoid soaking my parts. I had to totally take apart my build and loop and let my parts dry out. After that disaster I decided I wasn't going to attempt to build a custom loop anytime again in the near future (this was almost 2 years ago). I know I should have drained the loop before attempting any kind of maintenance, however the XSPC kit doesn't make it easy. You have to literally tip a gigantic case over that weighs close to 100 pounds and wait for the water to drain out. It just wasn't worth it over a couple of degrees IMO.
 
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I am thinking of getting H240-X and using it with this Swiftech full cover videocard waterblock for my GTX 780 Ti - http://www.swiftech.com/KOMODO-NV-LE.aspx . What additional material would I need to make H240-X and that Swiftech waterblock work? I assume I wouldn't need anything at all, but maybe I was wrong and I would need barbs or something like that for attachment?
Is there a better-performing and/or cheaper full cover videocard waterblock for my GTX 780 Ti that would also work with H240-X?
What temps should one expect with such a combination? Below 50C on GPU under heavy load I hope?
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It is still the best watercooling kit for the price being a pre-built.
You need tubing, fittings, fluid. Temps will vary on airflow and ambient temps.

He does not mention using for CPU cooling so he can just change the CPU block in the H240-X for the graphics card waterblock, no?
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