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Are you seeing pwr perfcap in GPU-Z while gaming or benchmarking? I had the same issue with one of my EVGA cards. I got fed up and took it back to Best Buy. The 2.0+ and FTW+ don't have the issue. It's due to the low power target in the stock bios. 170W def/187W max. The change in the + cards is much higher...201W def/222W max. I had to edit the bios to set the tdp to 250W def/max and power target to 232W def/250 max. The other difference is 4+2 power phase compared to 6+2 power phase on the updated PCB's. There is a user in the 970 Club, Vellinious, that was able to successfully get rid of the power perfcap on his FTW's. Maybe he can help..
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Are you seeing pwr perfcap in GPU-Z while gaming or benchmarking? I had the same issue with one of my EVGA cards. I got fed up and took it back to Best Buy. The 2.0+ and FTW+ don't have the issue. It's due to the low power target in the stock bios. 170W def/187W max. The change in the + cards is much higher...201W def/222W max. I had to edit the bios to set the tdp to 250W def/max and power target to 232W def/250 max. The other difference is 4+2 power phase compared to 6+2 power phase on the updated PCB's. There is a user in the 970 Club, Vellinious, that was able to successfully get rid of the power perfcap on his FTW's. Maybe he can help..

Thank you, I have contacted him and am waiting for a reply. I am overall happy with the 970 FTWs, it's just I feel as if, with them being under water, I am driving a Porsche at 25 mph and never getting out of idle, let alone first gear...

I read some posts from Vellinious, particularly one in which he mentions what he is running his voltage at, and where the voltages of these cards start to "really wake up", and this intrigued me. I know that, despite my power target being nullified, even if by the physical silver pen mod, I am still going to run into a "stock" voltage cap issue for overclocking potential. One can nullify the power target until the cows come home, this will eliminate throttling in an overclock yes, but obviously not achieve a "higher" overclock.

You were a great help DeathAngel and I do appreciate the reply!
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thanks dark if you have another brand to suggest... it is welcome

Well there is many good card out there..

1- The Gigabyte G1 and Windforce both used same custom PCB the different is higher base clock for the G1 and Backplate..
2- MSI 980 Gaming
3- EVGA 980 SC ( Avoid the FTW and Classy )
4- Zotac AMP! Extreme
5- Any Reference card with good cooling ( the Hybrid kit is good also )

GL
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I have some silver paint and was thinking of physically modding my card such as described here: http://overclocking.guide/increase-the-nvidia-power-limit-all-cards/

I am running two EVGA GTX 970 FTW cards and literally my only bottleneck is the damned Power Target, as I am using two EK FC970 GTX ACX full coverage waterblocks to cool them. I have never been a huge fan of flashing a video card BIOS. I have done it successfully with past cards, everything about the cards seemed ok, but I am just on the fence about it with two 970s, especially if something goes wrong, I don't need two $300+ paper weights.

Obviously by using silver paint and not solder, I can easily remove this physical mod if there ever is an issue, and since I have never had to touch the BIOS at all, my thinking is that EVGA would never know there was any mod to either card to begin with.

Basically right now I am just talking this out with myself and hoping someone chimes in. My Power Target is the issue. If, IF the resistors themselves can provide a Power Target high enough (without the silver paint, aka stock), in conjunction with the BIOS flash, for my needs, then so be it. However, I am looking to see if others out there with either the SSC or FTW edition cards are finding the BIOS flash to be more than what they need or "just about" what they need to break the limitations of the stock (Power Target) overclocking barrier.

If it's "just enough", I may consider keeping the BIOS stock and just using the silver paint.

Thanks for any input.

Hello

No need to mode the PCB at all, the bios can done that in easier way.. keep in mind physical mode need the bios mode to work..

Upload the stock bios here so we can help you & look at the first post there to how to flash in the right way to avoid any problem..

http://www.overclock.net/t/1573308/nvidia-gtx-900-cards-custom-bios-upon-request
   
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Any update to how increase voltage past 1.212 on 970? By the way, i have changed TIM to MX2 on my Asus 970 Black, max temp dropped 10 -15 degrees celsius. Highly overclocked never goes past 61 c. Asus owners, worth to try!
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Any update to how increase voltage past 1.212 on 970? By the way, i have changed TIM to MX2 on my Asus 970 Black, max temp dropped 10 -15 degrees celsius. Highly overclocked never goes past 61 c. Asus owners, worth to try!

Hello

Asus card's is locked from the VRM..no way to pass 1.212v limit rolleyes.gif
   
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I have usb in POST and BIOS, but not in windows! Repair install or fresh install? Win7 or WIn10? Got the new mobo, cpu works...Gigabyte G1 GA-Z97X-Gaming 3
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Mr-Dark,
HELP!
I have usb in POST and BIOS, but not in windows! Repair install or fresh install? Win7 or WIn10? Got the new mobo, cpu works...Gigabyte G1 GA-Z97X-Gaming 3

Hello mate

If you still use the windows from the old asus board for sure a fresh install for the windows will fix the problem.. as asus use different driver's than Gigabyte thumb.gif
   
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Thought so! Just didnt want to do it, lol. Did you see the pics?
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Thought so! Just didnt want to do it, lol. Did you see the pics?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



Yes i'v seen that biggrin.gif

I just sold my 970 today.. now i have an R9 290 waiting my 980 Ti wink.gif
   
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Intel Core I7 7700k Quad Core OC 5.1Ghz 1.344v Asus Z270 IX Code Nvidia GTX Titan-X Pascal 12GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 16GB 3000/C15 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Nvme 960 Evo 500GB Pny CS1311 480GB ThermalTake Water 3.0 Extreme 360m + Triple Rin... Windows 10 Pro 64Bit 
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Asus VG24QE 1080p 144Hz Razer Blackwidow Chroma  Evga SuperNova 850 B2 Corsair 780T White + Asus Front Base  
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Steelseries Rival 100  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core 3.0GHz LGA... MSI X99A GODlike Gaming Extreme Gaming Intel X99 MSI GTX 1070 Gaming-X 8GB SLI MSI GTX 1070 Gaming-X 8GB SLI 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeance led 64GB 8*8GB 2666Mhz Samsung 950 Pro 256GB ( Boot )  Samsung 850 Evo 1TB  Samsung 850 Evo 1TB  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H110i + SP140 Push/Pull Windows 10 Pro 64Bit Asus PG278Q 2560*1440p 144hz Gsync Razer BlackWidow Chroma Clicky Mechanical Gamin... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Evga SuperNova 1300G + Red Sleeved Cabel's Corsair 780T Black + Nzxt HUe +  Razer Mamba Tournament Edition - Professional G... Corsair Extended pad 
Audio
Creative Sound Blaster-Z 
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Intel Core I7 6700k Skylake @4.7Ghz 1.320v  Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 7 Evga GTX 1070 8GB Superclocked ACX 3.0  Corsair 16GB 3200Mhz 
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Corsair H110i + SP140 white fan's Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit Asus PG278Q 2560X1440p 144hz Gsync Razer BlackWidow Chroma RGB Mechanical Gaming 
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