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Originally Posted by moccor View Post

I'm curious, don't mean to sound ungrateful but why do you think your BIOS edit will fix my problem? Honestly I'm not sure its even what causes the problem, but I feel like increasing the boost %'s won't fix it when games run perfectly fine. It's something that happens between when the PC shuts down and starts up I believe, but the odd thing is I don't leave MSI afterburner running. I might change a fan speed and then close it. Finish playing a game, reopen set it to my liking and close it again. I do notice sometimes when running Bluestacks the Nvidia driver crashes which I didn't think of before - I wonder if that has to do with it

Hmmm. Are you willing to give my bios a try ? smile.gif

upload the stock bios again and tell me what you want. Clock/voltage/fan profile..etc wink.gif
   
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Sound like the chip limit there.. let's try a bios with 1.275v

GTX980-KFA2-1281v-Dark.zip 147k .zip file

1217MHz seems to be ok for now at 1.275 with a max temp of 73•C. Do you think that my chip can go higher than that ? Does the memory need to be tweaked or just doesn't worth it performance wise ?

Anyway, it's time to sleep here, will let the benchmark run during the night to be sure it's stable !

Thanks you guys for your help !

Edit : Almost forgot to ask : My Power is fluctuating between 63 and 75%, is this normal ? Before the bios flash it goes to at least 100% when benchmarking. I know you modified the base power limit but still, I find it weird smile.gif
Edited by PixelRaide - 2/6/16 at 2:41pm
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Hello

I recommended that you try my bios firstly then report back. all that is the limitation of the stock bios thumb.gif
No worry got it.

GTX970-Phantom---Dark.zip 136k .zip file

Core clock 1481mhz & some change to power table. the rest is the same..

it could be your PSU under the high power draw make a coil whine but trying the old Psu is good idea thumb.gif
Hello

Sound like you didn't disable both card ? latest Nvflash ? from where you get the custom bios ? I can help with custom bios though..

check my Sig thread for how to flash in the right way. a lot of useful info there thumb.gif

Ok, so I downloaded the latest version of nvflash, followed all directions precisely, and when I type in nvflash index0 ftw.rom for my first card (haven't tried number 2 yet), I get: ERROR: Firmware image filename must have a valid extension. (.rom .nvr .efr .efirom)

I tried a Google search to no avail. CMD is being run as Admin obviously, and obviously Mr. Dark's BIOS file ends in .rom. It doesn't flash obviously, at all, wondering if anyone has any experience with this an how to get around it??

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I have tried: nvflash index0 ftw.rom nvflash index0 -6 ftw.rom nvflash index=0 ftw.rom nvflash index=0 -6 ftw.rom, all with the same response
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should be
nvflash --protectoff
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Thank you. I will try this tomorrow when I get back home, probably late afternoon, looking forward to the flash!

Thanks again for the advice, I did see the protectoff under the help listing of nvflash, however I thought the -6 was synonymous with it...that's what I get for thinking...
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its underwhelming seeing people going past 1.212v on their cards. Getting some juicy 1.5ghz+ range overclocks. And here I am sitting with a dud of a card with locked voltage. frown.gif
Forcing voltage is not the only way to overclock though. I also have a locked vcore with my strix 980. I still bios mod the power limits and locked in 24/7 ram oc.

Here is a valley run at 1506mhz 1.212v 4.3ghz mems custom loop.


Imo, at least on this card bios mod can still help even a locked vcore card. Its luck of the draw via silicon lottery and a voltage bump does make up a few bins, which is nice. Im sure this isnt the only 980 that does 1.5k without adding voltage though.

That said, I wish nvidea would stop all the voltage locking (never happen). Most of the unlocked cards like my evga 970ftw still only allow 1.3v which is still limiting on water.
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Im sure this isnt the only 980 that does 1.5k without adding voltage though.

Both my locked 980 FTWs will do 1500 on 1.212. Beefy VRMs and watercooling can make even crappy 980s sing.
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If the chip does not react well to 1.281v and 1519mhz is not stable, you are facing the chip's limit. 1506.5 will be the max stable for your card, as is mine.

It's seems that you were right. 1217MHz also crashed at 1.275.

Concerning the memory can push higher than 3706MHz ?
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I have a questiona bout modding my bios. What happens when i set my temp target lower? now its 81C and my temp is 81C max when i run firestrike for example.
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1217MHz seems to be ok for now at 1.275 with a max temp of 73•C. Do you think that my chip can go higher than that ? Does the memory need to be tweaked or just doesn't worth it performance wise ?

Anyway, it's time to sleep here, will let the benchmark run during the night to be sure it's stable !

Thanks you guys for your help !

Edit : Almost forgot to ask : My Power is fluctuating between 63 and 75%, is this normal ? Before the bios flash it goes to at least 100% when benchmarking. I know you modified the base power limit but still, I find it weird smile.gif

Hello

you mean 1517mhz right ? if the card crash at higher clock then that the limit.. I recommended that you flash the first bios for 1506mhz/1.25v is better as the extra voltage didn't help farther...

for the memory if the card has Samsung or Elpida chip's you can push the memory from 3.7ghz to 4000mhz.. give it a try from MSI AB..

and the power usage is fine.. the lower usage under load is the better for stable OC..

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Thank you. I will try this tomorrow when I get back home, probably late afternoon, looking forward to the flash!

Thanks again for the advice, I did see the protectoff under the help listing of nvflash, however I thought the -6 was synonymous with it...that's what I get for thinking...

Hello

No need for "-6" at all.. that an old command .. here is the step's to flash the bios
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1-copy the bios to Nvflash folder
2- copy Nvflash folder to C driver
3- Disable the card from Device Manager
4-Open CMD as admin
5- type: cd /nvflash
6- nvflash biosname.rom
7- hit enter then Y
8-wait 30sec and Nvflash will ask for a reboot
9- enable the Video card from Device manager
10- Reboot
11- Have a fun!

this for SLI
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nvflash --list
to see all cards you have and what index they've been assigned

nvflash --index=x bios.rom
to flash to a specific card in a multi card system, where x is the index number from the nvflash --list command

GL
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I have a questiona bout modding my bios. What happens when i set my temp target lower? now its 81C and my temp is 81C max when i run firestrike for example.

Hello

the card will throttle once the temp target reached
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Forcing voltage is not the only way to overclock though. I also have a locked vcore with my strix 980. I still bios mod the power limits and locked in 24/7 ram oc.

Here is a valley run at 1506mhz 1.212v 4.3ghz mems custom loop.


Imo, at least on this card bios mod can still help even a locked vcore card. Its luck of the draw via silicon lottery and a voltage bump does make up a few bins, which is nice. Im sure this isnt the only 980 that does 1.5k without adding voltage though.

That said, I wish nvidea would stop all the voltage locking (never happen). Most of the unlocked cards like my evga 970ftw still only allow 1.3v which is still limiting on water.
Edited by Wirerat - Today at 7:02 am

Hello

As you way its the silicon all the time, some card even with voltage limit to 1.212v still OC better than unlocked card..

even with some unlocked card Maxwell still stop scale after 1.25v-1.30v its the Architecture itself
   
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