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Hey guys, just joined and wanted to ask about my situation with the 5960X and the Noctua NH-D15.

I've installed my NH-D15 on my 5960X with Asus X99 Deluxe motherboard inside a Silverstone FT02 case. I've attempted some overclocking, and what I've noticed is that my temps get way to high in the SmallFFT tests in Prime95.

I have a set of G.Skill Ripjaws at DDR4-2666, and when I activate the XMP profile it sets my BCLK to 125MHz. Right now, I'm sitting on a multiplier of 33, which leads to a 4.125GHz clock. I have my voltage set to offset, with a +.155V setting, which leads to around a 1.095V vcore in CPU-Z. When I run the blend test in Prime95, initially its around 65-70C in HWMonitor, but when the SmallFFT tests come on it immediately spikes my temps up to 85C. Any higher multiplier and vcore settings leads to temps at 90C or above, which I am not comfortable with at all.

Is this all I can expect from an air cooler on the 5960X? I've seen reviews where they manage to hit ~4.5GHz at 1.2-1.3V, and a few of them specifically mention they are using the NH-D15. Did I just not seat this properly?
post #2 of 11
The only way to test a cooler mount is to do multiple mounts until you can achieve consistent temperatures. Try remounting twice more and see if the temps are the same. If they are then you know you have a good mount.

Since air coolers depend on the temperature of the air inside the case, case fans can and do have a great effect on CPU cooler performance. Add up the CFMs you have on exhaust and intake (don't forget the PSU fan and GPU fan). They should be about the same. A slight positive pressure will help keep dust out of your case too.

There are many CPU voltage settings in the Bios (other than the basic CPU one) that can effect CPU temperatures.
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I have the same mobo, cpu,and cooler... similar temps also. However i have not OCed beyond the XMP switch, firestrike went from low 18000 to mid 19000 just from xmp switch. the extent of my testing was crystaldisk, firestrike, xmp. firestrike, prime95 in that order...

I am crazy busy with work so i haven't yet had time to dig into it, but I'm sure we can achieve much better than this.

Let me know if/when/how you are able to improve and ill do the same.

GL
post #4 of 11
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Well, I just got around to reseating the NH-D15, but to no avail, temperatures haven't changed. I have noticed CoreTemp setting my TJMax to 105C, for which I have heard is actually a different value for the 5960X. Also I've been looking at CPU temps in MSI Afterburner, and the temps are consistently 10C cooler than what I see in CoreTemp.
post #5 of 11
I think the problem is the SmallFFT test itself.

I recently put together a 5820K system with a Swiftech H240X, and it couldn't even handle that particular test at 4.3GHz (and that only has six cores).

Stick to Large or try another program for stability testing.
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post #6 of 11
AVX instructions will for sure ramp up 5960x temps, especially prime 95 small FFT's.

And this.. http://www.overclock.net/t/1510328/asus-x99-motherboard-series-official-support-thread-north-america
http://www.overclock.net/t/1510388/haswell-e-overclock-leaderboard-owners-club
Edited by ep45-ds3l - 10/18/14 at 2:47pm
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post #7 of 11
The short answer is that a D15 and 4.5GHz on a 8 core is not a realistic expectation at room temperature. The heat output is essentially doubled clock for clock compared to a 4 core.

A 6 core cpu can do 4.5GHz on air but the 8 core cpus cannot. The heat output is too high.


If you want to go to 4.5GHz on an 8 core cpu, then you will have to use water cooling. By water cooling, I mean that you have to build a real custom loop, not one of those closed loop coolers, which are inferior to the D15.



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post #8 of 11
I'm not sure that 4-core / 6-core / 8-core heat half again and twice as much. My experience is that CPUs with the same TDP make pretty much the same heat regardless of how many cores they have. For example my i7 920 (4x 2.66GHx) and i7 980 (6x 3.33GHz)run the same temps at stock clocks on same motherboard and with same coolers.
post #9 of 11
Use the x264 stress test for lower temps. Quite a few people have moved on from Prime/IBT with Haswell.
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post #10 of 11
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I've noticed that the NH-D15 stock fans only are 1500RPM. So I actually took the 2500RPM 140mm Thermalright fans from my old Silver Arrow and mounted them on the Noctua, and at full bore, I'm noticing a 5-10C drop in temps in SmallFFT, and with my current settings just enough to keep it under 80C. So it seems the stock fans just weren't moving enough air. But I'm definitely going to look into that x264 stress test instead.
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