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I noticed people have been saying 28-nm HPM. The only problem with that is Tonga is 28-nm HP. AMD has only one part at TSMC on 28-nm HPM. The PS4 console, the GPUs, and CPUs were and are all on TSMC 28-nm HP.

So, either they are re-tapeouts or not for AMD. Why can't the tape outs be for Vivante? http://www.vivantecorp.com/index.php/en/technology/gpgpu.html
Edited by Seronx - 10/18/14 at 11:53am
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http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/amd-our-graphics-cards-are-better-value-than-nvidia-s-and-we-have-plenty-of-stock/034887

Somewhat out of touch I'd say.

Also he didn't mention the 970 at all...

E: also strangely convenient that pricing argument. "no we didn't drop prices, but look at all these price dropped radeons!".
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Lol what a bunch of stupids.

Meanwhile nvidia is all eat grenade stupids.
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Well that article is pure advertising, I agree. But he's right saying the 980 offers not much value.
In Germany you can get 2 290s for the price of one 980.

TBH I don't care how the market looks like right now, I am more interested to see the 390X vs Titan II and whether Nvidia offers 20+% more performance than AMD again.
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980 is terrible value anyway. He's right that the 290(x)'s provide great value right now. However, if I were in the market and didn't already have an existing 290, I would get a 970. There's a reason you can hardly find any in stock right now.

Competition is great though as now those like me with a 290(x) now have the option of going CF for cheap thumb.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poii View Post

Well that article is pure advertising, I agree. But he's right saying the 980 offers not much value.
In Germany you can get 2 290s for the price of one 980.

TBH I don't care how the market looks like right now, I am more interested to see the 390X vs Titan II and whether Nvidia offers 20+% more performance than AMD again.

980 doesn't offer any value, they're selling some of them for almost twice as much as 970's.. for what, up to 23% theoretical performance gain? Usually less.

Nobody would buy a 290x over a 290 for value (it actually almost never makes sense to get a 290x because of the tiny performance difference and big price gap) but 970 - 980 has a legit performance difference (probably over 3x bigger than 290 vs 290x) and it's the best single GPU, so the premium is understandable
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980 doesn't offer any value, they're selling some of them for almost twice as much as 970's.. for what, up to 23% theoretical performance gain? Usually less.

Nobody would buy a 290x over a 290 for value (it actually almost never makes sense to get a 290x because of the tiny performance difference and big price gap) but 970 - 980 has a legit performance difference (probably over 3x bigger than 290 vs 290x) and it's the best single GPU, so the premium is understandable
290 has all 64 rops active whereas 970 has 56. Their die sizes are quite similar, too. Maxwell 900's are 400 mm^2 compared with 432 mm^2 Hawaii 200's.
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Quote:
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290 has all 64 rops active whereas 970 has 56. Their die sizes are quite similar, too. Maxwell 900's are 400 mm^2 compared with 432 mm^2 Hawaii 200's.

970 has all the 64 ROPs,
GM204 is 398mm^2 while hawaii is 438mm^2

Anyway, it's somewhat predictable that huddy ignored the 970 in his statements. The thing has a MSRP of $330, it's faster than the 290 and draws less power meaning that it will put out less heat.
 
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Alatar is just so happy, because all those people who couldn't afford a R9 290x a year ago, saved up enough money a year later, to buy a similar in power Nvidia product...

 

 

Somehow waiting a complete year, just to buy something that has Nvidia on it, is so biased, it becomes laughable. Everyone knows the 900 series brought nothing new to the game in terms of raw compute power...  but instead, Nvidia waited a whole year to introduce lower power consumption and heat reduction...  

 

Nvidia biased people are happy for two reasons...  , they really don't care about the actual computational power of the card, just the performance of the card' actual mechanical operation (ie: it's efficiency)

 

All fact^ 

 

 

 

 

Also, for those people waiting for a real card, with real power over last gen, are told to just buy two 900 series...  Nvidia uses SLI as an excuse for everything.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alatar View Post

970 has all the 64 ROPs,
GM204 is 398mm^2 while hawaii is 438mm^2

Anyway, it's somewhat predictable that huddy ignored the 970 in his statements. The thing has a MSRP of $330, it's faster than the 290 and draws less power meaning that it will put out less heat.
You may say, your opinion is your own. However facts point otherwise.
Tech Report proof.gif

BTW, I have written wrong, I apologise - it should have been "970 has 52 active rops".
The respectable editors of Damien Troilet at Hardwarefr & the recent editorial correction by Scott Wasson at Techreport expose this in plain sight. Nvidia's offers have "less rops".

I like it when editors have the valour to keep their audiences well informed inspite of the consequences. It shows in the quality of their work in spades, imo.
Also, please don't discuss Nvidia in this thread. This is an AMD "news" thread. I'm sick and tired of this troll fan bravado.
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