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Be sure to use HWMonitor and look at core temps. What you have posted is the socket temp.
You will find the "core temp" under the "AMD Phenom II X6 1090T" header.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I will agree with posts above about reapplying TIM but this is my 2cents.gif with the information we currently have. (some missing)
I posted the snip above to show a couple of things. Please note CPU is OC'd but bare with me. If you notice the difference in our posts when looking at the "Mainboard Temp".
This tells me you have either a very high ambient room temp or a lack of air flow within the case. (perhaps both?) This snip is when I ran a Scythe Mungen II with P/P GT AP-15's at this OC for a comparison and at this level my Mainboard temp is/was much lower.

The issue is probably due to the GPU and the fact your cooler is well... maybe just not up to the task when the GPU is filling it with only hot air?
Would help to know ambient temp etc.

Did this issue just start after not being an issue before? headscratch.gif

You've listed your mobo as a "TD". Wonder if it's an "EVO" or maybe the "USB3" version. Here's why.



Info located here http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

this could become an issue if you have the USB3 version with only a 4+1 Phase Count and at some time down the road deside to start to OC. Not saying it's the current issue but wanted to make you aware just in case.
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Be sure to use HWMonitor and look at core temps. What you have posted is the socket temp.
You will find the "core temp" under the "AMD Phenom II X6 1090T" header.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I will agree with posts above about reapplying TIM but this is my 2cents.gif with the information we currently have. (some missing)
I posted the snip above to show a couple of things. Please note CPU is OC'd but bare with me. If you notice the difference in our posts when looking at the "Mainboard Temp".
This tells me you have either a very high ambient room temp or a lack of air flow within the case. (perhaps both?) This snip is when I ran a Scythe Mungen II with P/P GT AP-15's at this OC for a comparison and at this level my Mainboard temp is/was much lower.

The issue is probably due to the GPU and the fact your cooler is well... maybe just not up to the task when the GPU is filling it with only hot air?
Would help to know ambient temp etc.

Did this issue just start after not being an issue before? headscratch.gif

You've listed your mobo as a "TD". Wonder if it's an "EVO" or maybe the "USB3" version. Here's why.



Info located here http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

this could become an issue if you have the USB3 version with only a 4+1 Phase Count and at some time down the road deside to start to OC. Not saying it's the current issue but wanted to make you aware just in case.
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Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post

Be sure to use HWMonitor and look at core temps. What you have posted is the socket temp.
You will find the "core temp" under the "AMD Phenom II X6 1090T" header.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I will agree with posts above about reapplying TIM but this is my 2cents.gif with the information we currently have. (some missing)
I posted the snip above to show a couple of things. Please note CPU is OC'd but bare with me. If you notice the difference in our posts when looking at the "Mainboard Temp".
This tells me you have either a very high ambient room temp or a lack of air flow within the case. (perhaps both?) This snip is when I ran a Scythe Mungen II with P/P GT AP-15's at this OC for a comparison and at this level my Mainboard temp is/was much lower.

The issue is probably due to the GPU and the fact your cooler is well... maybe just not up to the task when the GPU is filling it with only hot air?
Would help to know ambient temp etc.

Did this issue just start after not being an issue before? headscratch.gif

You've listed your mobo as a "TD". Wonder if it's an "EVO" or maybe the "USB3" version. Here's why.



Info located here http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

this could become an issue if you have the USB3 version with only a 4+1 Phase Count and at some time down the road deside to start to OC. Not saying it's the current issue but wanted to make you aware just in case.

I reapplied the paste,still the same issue,it's idling at about 45-50 celsius,it might be the case to be honest,but i don't know really,i keep getting blue screens randomly,with the code 0x124,which i'm tempted to think it's overheating,i'm using the USB3 MB version.
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Can you give a file dump of the bsod?
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Can you give a file dump of the bsod?
I'll try and force a bsod so I can give you one,because for some reason the dumps so far didn't save,even though i let the pc dump it
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I'll try and force a bsod so I can give you one,because for some reason the dumps so far didn't save,even though i let the pc dump it

Maybe this will help http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html#DownloadLinks

Remember you have no heat sinks on the VRM's and with little/no air flow on top of that.
Have you tried adding a fan (old case fan works) to blow directly onto the VRM/CPU socket" area?

When changing to a after market cooler you usually remove any air flow that use to come from the stock HS fan setup as it blew down towards the mobo and over to the VRM's. This is typical of tower coolers. The air flow now passes above/adjacent and probably never even reaches this area. Combine this with the fact you're running only one 92mm fan on the cooler and I think you'll see where things are going. My thoughts are still too much hot air in case from GPU (not enough exhaust) and not enough cool air being drawn into the case. For this smaller budget cooler to do it's job it's going to take a good supply of cool fresh air.

You say system is stock (I'll assume many auto settings in bios) what is Vcore currently running at?
 
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Excellent point. If you've got space In your case you could even stick a 120 or preferrably 140mm fan right on top of the cooler pointing down. Ugly as hell, but it should work and be easy to mount. The other option is get the airflow going your case in general. Fan that puppy up. The capacitors probably isn't the only thing that is hot in there.
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Excellent point. If you've got space In your case you could even stick a 120 or preferrably 140mm fan right on top of the cooler pointing down. Ugly as hell, but it should work and be easy to mount. The other option is get the airflow going your case in general. Fan that puppy up. The capacitors probably isn't the only thing that is hot in there.

Problem is,i could only stick 2 fans in the pc,since the MB only has 2 fan power pins,i'll try to get some more fans in though,here's the things needed to know bout my processor.

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Problem is,i could only stick 2 fans in the pc,since the MB only has 2 fan power pins,i'll try to get some more fans in though,here's the things needed to know bout my processor.


Not sure what you want to know about the CPU, but for the extra fan connections take a look at these
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1089/cab-04/3-pin_to_4-pin_Adapter.html?tl=g47c251s634
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14661/ele-987/3-Pin_Power_Distribution_PCB_3xWay_Block_MMT-PCB-3WAY.html?tl=g47c17s424

There's always a fan controller as well that would run off the 12v molex connection (same connection as the 1st link above)

I can now understand why it's running so warm, 1.392v Vcore for 3200MHz. Heck mine runs at 4013MHz with 1.404v Vcore.



You need to get things off auto in bios. This is what happens when you leave bios on default settings. No where near being optimized even for stock.

DL and run HWInfo64 and look at the CPU VID, this is what your CPU is designed to run at stock.
Edited by The Sandman - 10/13/14 at 5:58pm
 
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Problem is,i could only stick 2 fans in the pc,since the MB only has 2 fan power pins,i'll try to get some more fans in though,here's the things needed to know bout my processor.


That is what Y connectors are for.

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Not sure what you want to know about the CPU, but for the extra fan connections take a look at these
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1089/cab-04/3-pin_to_4-pin_Adapter.html?tl=g47c251s634
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14661/ele-987/3-Pin_Power_Distribution_PCB_3xWay_Block_MMT-PCB-3WAY.html?tl=g47c17s424

There's always a fan controller as well that would run off the 12v molex connection (same connection as the 1st link above)

I can now understand why it's running so warm, 1.392v Vcore for 3200MHz. Heck mine runs at 4013MHz with 1.404v Vcore.



You need to get things off auto in bios. This is what happens when you leave bios on default settings. No where near being optimized even for stock.

DL and run HWInfo64 and look at the CPU VID, this is what your CPU is designed to run at stock.

So basically,it needs to run @ 1,15v?


I'm not really good with these types of things,and thank you very much for helping me fix my issue

Here's what my bios settings look at the moment.

Edited by dr00p - 10/14/14 at 7:21am
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The only thing that two fan ports means functionally, is that you have fans that vary their speed according to two different sets of inputs.

You could happily attach 6 fans to one fan port (using enough splitters) and it would still run just fine.

If for some reason you don't want to do that you can get adapters that will allow you to connect a fan to any of your psu's power leads, be it molex, sata, or whatever. The of problem with those is that they have no software control, and will run full speed all the time unless you rather though a fan controller or get some voltage drop circuitry into the mix. They sell 12v-10v cables that I find work quite well for example.
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