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Let's say for arguments sake that the core 2 quad is even with whichever processor (I did a quick search, it's a bit behind a Phenom II 965) I would imagine u've got quite a gpu bottleneck with the 4850. I had a 5830 on the 965. It played BF3 better than expected, which is to say 30 fps avg. Pretty good for the hardware. I unparked the CPU cores (great solution to poorly optimized multi-core games) and I was up to 50 fps avg, and this is on highish settings. I popped in my 7970 upon acquisition, maxed settings, 90 fps avg, 120fps avg cores unparked (overkill but fun to know I could). GPU at near full load. (might have been 70% in one config, i can't remember). BTW always in 64 player matches, meant to play SingleP on ultra when I got the new card, never got around to it. Too many new sick MultiP games, a bunch free with the card wink.gif Crysis/Farcry 3 baby.

I didn't play much watchdogs, for some reason I never really took to it. Even then, the 965/7970 played it smooth. Cores parked, never bothered to check the FPS.

Damn you have an outrageous number of games lol!

Point is I don't know what a windows 8 virtual machine is lol. and you need to be sure which component is the bottleneck - And learn the tricks/tactics to overcome poor programmer tricks/tactics lol 'wink.gif

85hzr crt, GTX480, 12gb ddr3 q9550 @ 3.8 ghz and FCBD is smoother than smooth. actually an oced q9550 with ddr3 is on par with a first gen i5. with socket 771 mod and decent Xeon and good over clocked even faster than that. another user tried a GTX780 with ddr2 and mild OC and it didn't bottle neck tooo bad.

Yeah the 4850s in crossfire are bit old but, they ran bioshock infinite on medium low @1050P. that machine has been in pieces for a year though. ideally i would pair the 480 with the 1100T but, OSX does not play nice with AMD cpus and chipsets.

those are some pretty decent results you got in BF3 there!!! i remember building PCs for people when BF2/BF3 was announced.
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85hzr crt, GTX480, 12gb ddr3 q9550 @ 3.8 ghz and FCBD is smoother than smooth. actually an oced q9550 with ddr3 is on par with a first gen i5. with socket 771 mod and decent Xeon and good over clocked even faster than that. another user tried a GTX780 with ddr2 and mild OC and it didn't bottle neck tooo bad.

Yeah the 4850s in crossfire are bit old but, they ran bioshock infinite on medium low @1050P. that machine has been in pieces for a year though. ideally i would pair the 480 with the 1100T but, OSX does not play nice with AMD cpus and chipsets.

those are some pretty decent results you got in BF3 there!!! i remember building PCs for people when BF2/BF3 was announced.

He only had 1 4850 in his sig. And it's been a while, but i'm fair sure a 480 decimates a 4850.

And ya, BF3, like I said; better than I expected smile.gif But I did see it dip below 20. The guy that made the little core park/unpark program deserved a nobel peace prize a couple years ago. I can't begin to imagine the violence he averted, especially from just me! You should have seen the difference in Planet Side 2, HUGE. can't remember the figures, just that difference...

My CPU is weird tho, it's better than it's supposed to be, on the other hand, it auto volts the CPU at 1.4v stock. Even on cool'n'quiet, a resting cpu takes 0.9v then the second its in use, bang 1.4v. Yet it still hit 3.9 on auto overlock (cuz I'm lazy) and yet there were barely any OC knowledgeable people who could make it hit 4.0 manually.
Edited by Darkhaze - 10/18/14 at 1:55am
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After reading the green vs blue by the end of the first page I didn't bother reading the same to follow.
I have been running an Fx8350 @ 4.8Ghz solid for almost 2 years now on an Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev2 on a closed loop Nzxt Kraken x60 at 19c idle, 40-50 full load,
as you originally mentioned as well I am running (2x8) 16G gskill ram at 10-10-10-30 cl10.
I mostly play BF4 and 3 but I do play some simpler single thread games as well.....guess what? no issues at all. The Bios is pretty friendly for a beginner and comfortable to a novice.
I find that no matter how stupid of a tweak or forgotten settings I've imputed it still forgives endlessly. And if it doesn't Asus backs up it's board with a 5 year warranty.
I am more of an Amd fan boy however by the number charts....Intel wins! By the wallet Amd wins. as far as a compassion to what you actually see.....not much diff, at that point you gotta look at your gpu
to carry it's fair share of weight.
I Hope this is somewhat helpful to you and apologize in advance if I repeated anyone's previous statements.
Pm me if you have any question about my hardware settings and such. thumb.gif
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After reading the green vs blue by the end of the first page I didn't bother reading the same to follow.
I have been running an Fx8350 @ 4.8Ghz solid for almost 2 years now on an Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev2 on a closed loop Nzxt Kraken x60 at 19c idle, 40-50 full load,
as you originally mentioned as well I am running (2x8) 16G gskill ram at 10-10-10-30 cl10.
I mostly play BF4 and 3 but I do play some simpler single thread games as well.....guess what? no issues at all. The Bios is pretty friendly for a beginner and comfortable to a novice.
I find that no matter how stupid of a tweak or forgotten settings I've imputed it still forgives endlessly. And if it doesn't Asus backs up it's board with a 5 year warranty.
I am more of an Amd fan boy however by the number charts....Intel wins! By the wallet Amd wins. as far as a compassion to what you actually see.....not much diff, at that point you gotta look at your gpu
to carry it's fair share of weight.
I Hope this is somewhat helpful to you and apologize in advance if I repeated anyone's previous statements.
Pm me if you have any question about my hardware settings and such. thumb.gif

Thanks mucho man, I probably will in the near future. One 7970 cuts its for now, but another/280x (or 2 lol they're getting cheaper by the day) can get thrown in CFx in future. Yes they pair, same guts, same board/chip rebranded/named wtvr.

But you've touched on one of my most important threads. I would LOVE to put an x61 into my case. I have a HAF 932. I'm sure your HAF X has the screw holes in the right position for the x61. The original HAF 932 does NOT. The top fits 1x120mm + 1x 230mm, or 3x120mm. It not a question of space, just reinforced screw hole positions. Nothing in the 140mm variety. If the Damn thing wasn't steel mesh, I would happily drill away. But I'm assuming the RAD is fairly heavy, so I need smart unhideous ways to reinforce it in it's mesh holes lol. Here's the thread if u just wanna see the pictures of the top with a measuring tape.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1518784/wth-original-932-not-compatible-with-anything-good#post_23014029

Screw it I'll just put the pics here. Might as well...




I was even considering one of the new 3x120 cooling rads, cuz the 2x140s were beyond cooler master's grasp in the olden days (lol).

I think my best thought in that thread was to use metal washers to reinforce the holes, easy enough to see where they go thru the mesh lol.
Maybe I could make some sort of rectangular adapter somwehow? I like making crazy things, but I don't wanna ugly up my computer too much, a bit is ok wink.gif

P.S. The Sabertooth was among my top choices, as with some cool (literally lol) features, it has 5 year warranty. But from what I've read ASUS is TERRIBLE at customer service, especially RMAs. If/when I buy an ASUS, I'll probably just spend $25 on a 3 year direct replacement warranty from the store down the street (they usually have the best prices too, and rebates no ones else seems to have(?), so that kinda offsets the extra cost)
Edited by Darkhaze - 10/18/14 at 9:21am
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He only had 1 4850 in his sig. And it's been a while, but i'm fair sure a 480 decimates a 4850.

And ya, BF3, like I said; better than I expected smile.gif But I did see it dip below 20. The guy that made the little core park/unpark program deserved a nobel peace prize a couple years ago. I can't begin to imagine the violence he averted, especially from just me! You should have seen the difference in Planet Side 2, HUGE. can't remember the figures, just that difference...

My CPU is weird tho, it's better than it's supposed to be, on the other hand, it auto volts the CPU at 1.4v stock. Even on cool'n'quiet, a resting cpu takes 0.9v then the second its in use, bang 1.4v. Yet it still hit 3.9 on auto overlock (cuz I'm lazy) and yet there were barely any OC knowledgeable people who could make it hit 4.0 manually.

whos he? i know mine has 2 of them listed. you could mount the radiator on top of the case.

I have had asus mobos get struck by lightening and still run with no issue except for no internet because the modem was was litter on fire with flames. melt the whole bottom half of the mobo and it was still running fine. customer called in saying it wouldn't connect to the internet, the plastic was still smoldering and the pc still running when th technician got there. I have several stories like this with asus products, on the flip their RMA/cust support sometimes sucks.
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whos he? i know mine has 2 of them listed. you could mount the radiator on top of the case.

I have had asus mobos get struck by lightening and still run with no issue except for no internet because the modem was was litter on fire with flames. melt the whole bottom half of the mobo and it was still running fine. customer called in saying it wouldn't connect to the internet, the plastic was still smoldering and the pc still running when th technician got there. I have several stories like this with asus products, on the flip their RMA/cust support sometimes sucks.

My bad, i didn't notice u had graphics listed twice.

Lol don't people know that computers are not keys, and the roof isn't (usually) a kite? I would actually respect that if it were an intentional experiment.

In my youth, ASUS was the go to. These days that seems to be the opinion. But somewhere in the middle there, they took a nose dive quality-wise. I give you my m2ne-sli. both of them, cuz i bought another used to try to fix a failing POS to begin with mobo (PCI slots quit shortly after fresh installs)... long story. Short version, 4 years as my puter, no problems, no ability to OC my (at the time) top end BE cpu (athlon x2 6400+ BE 3.2 or something), thank's asus, as the community said u can't OC that board, even tho it had one of the original auto OC tuners, tried manually too - gave up b4 long, it was futile.

As a familiy comp, it was great for 2 days to about a month, then suddenly the file system was corrputed, and then gone, leaving only the 171mb windows partition. Replaced everything but the CPU, no joy. Won't even back up right so as I can just restore it. Fresh install on a dual core monthly... 3 diff HDDs, right now i'm tryin an SSD I'm using the same programs on both computers so that ain't it. It couldn't just be win 7.. could it? I used xp when it was mine, switched to 7x64, but I think i tried xp again, at least I hope I did... whole unsolved thread if i care to see: nm can't find it, prob diff site where my handle is StupidComputers thanks to the above lol.


Anyway, I've considered putting the rad on top (outside) with a pull config and have the bigass case top fan as a weak push. Good idea, bad idea?
Edited by Darkhaze - 10/18/14 at 9:19pm
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My bad, i didn't notice u had graphics listed twice.

Lol don't people know that computers are not keys, and the roof isn't (usually) a kite? I would actually respect that if it were an intentional experiment.

In my youth, ASUS was the go to. These days that seems to be the opinion. But somewhere in the middle there, they took a nose dive quality-wise. I give you my m2ne-sli. both of them, cuz i bought another used to try to fix a failing POS to begin with mobo (PCI slots quit shortly after fresh installs)... long story. Short version, 4 years as my puter, no problems, no ability to OC my (at the time) top end BE cpu (athlon x2 6400+ BE 3.2 or something), thank's asus, as the community said u can't OC that board, even tho it had one of the original auto OC tuners, tried manually too - gave up b4 long, it was futile.

As a familiy comp, it was great for 2 days to about a month, then suddenly the file system was corrputed, and then gone, leaving only the 171mb windows partition. Replaced everything but the CPU, no joy. Won't even back up right so as I can just restore it. Fresh install on a dual core monthly... 3 diff HDDs, right now i'm tryin an SSD I'm using the same programs on both computers so that ain't it. It couldn't just be win 7.. could it? I used xp when it was mine, switched to 7x64, but I think i tried xp again, at least I hope I did... whole unsolved thread if i care to see: nm can't find it, prob diff site where my handle is StupidComputers thanks to the above lol.


Anyway, I've considered putting the rad on top (outside) with a pull config and have the bigass case top fan as a weak push. Good idea, bad idea?

you replaced the PSU too? all OEMs have boards at some point, asus makes some crappy boards but, usually their top end boards are good stuff. go MSi there stuff routinely catches on fire specially on the AMD side. Gigabyte stuff is OKAY, AsRock has jankyness going on with some of their firmware and they sometimes cut corners. Biostar is probably on par with AsRock, they make some cheap stuff but, some of it lasts.

those are the big name brands and none of them are perfect. so its usually the lesser of 2 evils so to speak.

GOOD/DECENT IDEA!!! You can use all thread to mount it. you would have to drill the holes for the all thread and have a way to clean out the metal shavings from the drilling and disassemble before that.
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you replaced the PSU too? all OEMs have boards at some point, asus makes some crappy boards but, usually their top end boards are good stuff. go MSi there stuff routinely catches on fire specially on the AMD side. Gigabyte stuff is OKAY, AsRock has jankyness going on with some of their firmware and they sometimes cut corners. Biostar is probably on par with AsRock, they make some cheap stuff but, some of it lasts.

those are the big name brands and none of them are perfect. so its usually the lesser of 2 evils so to speak.

GOOD/DECENT IDEA!!! You can use all thread to mount it. you would have to drill the holes for the all thread and have a way to clean out the metal shavings from the drilling and disassemble before that.

Everything man, tried 3 psu's, latest one is brand new because the original died during this multi-year headache.

How do you use those all threads without damaging the thread? Or do you just use you fingers?

I'm actually (likely) going to get the ASUS M5A99FX pro 2 for an 8350, but I'm gonna get it from the store near me (which has it cheapest atm) and spend the extra $25 for a 3 year direct replacement warranty, screw asus customer service.
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Everything man, tried 3 psu's, latest one is brand new because the original died during this multi-year headache.

How do you use those all threads without damaging the thread? Or do you just use you fingers?

I'm actually (likely) going to get the ASUS M5A99FX pro 2 for an 8350, but I'm gonna get it from the store near me (which has it cheapest atm) and spend the extra $25 for a 3 year direct replacement warranty, screw asus customer service.

that seems like a decent plan and board. while it's not 8+2 phase it is 6+2 and is heatsinked and recommended paired with decent air flow and solid PSU you should be able to clock it.

all thread is just really long screws/bolts. you can use double nuts tightened together to hold the all threads and rads at your desired height.
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that seems like a decent plan and board. while it's not 8+2 phase it is 6+2 and is heatsinked and recommended paired with decent air flow and solid PSU you should be able to clock it.

all thread is just really long screws/bolts. you can use double nuts tightened together to hold the all threads and rads at your desired height.

I think it said 6+2+2 whatever that means. I don't suppose u can think of a better board between that one and well the overpriced stuff. 99fx is $120cdn atm, sale should do much better. Sabertooth is $200, but really lacks cool features and I hear a lot of them have problems recognizing 1866, apparently 99fx reads XMP. Formula-z is $240.. i swear yesterday I saw the top AMD boards going for just over $300 and was appalled they would charge that for AM3, maybe they lowered it overnight after a scrooge/wake up u fools dream? I was pretty toasted yesterday... but I'm sure I saw it.

double nuts? It sounds crazy... i like crazy, double crazy, well, that's just genius smile.gif How do you keep from damaging the threads if it's "all thread", or can you just use your fingers?
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