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post #191 of 226
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Again game developers not spending enough time to develop the games correctly does not mean MS is bad. Read some articles before you insert your foot in your mouth. Ps4&Xbox one are strong enough to run games at 60fps, THE GAME COMPANIES ARE NOT PUTTING IN THE TIME TO CODE THE GAMES CORRECTLY. ill put it in better terms, you gave an i7 with gtx 780 but can only run a game at 30fps. Is it your hardwares manufacturer fault or the game mabufacturer for porting? Same difference here.

1. parity clause

2. 50% more gpu power in ps4

there's no way to make that "fair" for ms-when your hardware is that underpowered in comparison.

as far as pc, it's hard to say whether it's ms fault or not. but it's easy to see how making the parity clause universal could make it seem less like a cyncial ploy against sony
post #192 of 226
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^This guy and blind hate for Microsoft

Other articles have stated the xbox one is More then powerful enough to run any game created for it at 1080p and 60fps. The problem is with companies not putting the effort into correctly coding the games to run on the hardware. Its not microsofts fault, its crappy.companies not putting in the effort.
you are blind as posters above me proven my point.
post #193 of 226
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I've been saying for years that consoles are holding back the evolution of gaming. Now it appears they are trying to drag us back into the stone age. I guess they'll only listen when game sales plummet.

Actually consoles played a great role for the evolution of gaming. There is no holding back.
post #194 of 226
Argh I hate consoles. They've done nothing but make the lives of pc gamers more difficult.
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post #195 of 226
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Argh I hate consoles. They've done nothing but make the lives of pc gamers more difficult.

While that's true they're not the face of evil or anything. Frankly; it's crappy devs that are releasing cames built to run on consoles then porting them over to pc when it should be the exact opposite.
All of the crap we have going on now, regardless of lackluster system specs is directly the fault of developer laziness and/or incompetence.
post #196 of 226
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Argh I hate consoles. They've done nothing but make the lives of pc gamers more difficult.

Consoles are not making life hard for PC gamers. They have been around for 30 years I believe. Consoles moved gaming industry way more than PC gamers admit or give credit.
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While that's true they're not the face of evil or anything. Frankly; it's crappy devs that are releasing cames built to run on consoles then porting them over to pc when it should be the exact opposite.
All of the crap we have going on now, regardless of lackluster system specs is directly the fault of developer laziness and/or incompetence.

Exactly. Every single game developer has the resource to do a great PC game. Since PC gaming is on the rise, it is their own fault that they are still not fully taking advantage of PC gaming.

Only one thing I want to say against what I said above is that programming a game to a closed system such as a console is just way more easier than programming it to various different CPU and GPU types. As much as having countless different CPU and GPU types is an incredible advantage and a great freedom, it also has its downsides like this. So sick of a game running much better on an Nvidia GPU but not on a AMD GPU or vice versa.
post #197 of 226
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I feel like im the only one on these forums that feels like 720p at 30 fps is not that bad. PC gamers are getting so jaded when it comes to games. Not everyone can afford the rigs to play 1080p 60 fps. I guess I'm just happy with a smooth 30 fps and others want more. Just like how people want 10k screens on cell phones i suppose

The point is choice. if u are ok with 30 fps thats alright but i certainly am not but to artificially limit my choices because they ****ed up their shiny new consoles is just plain annoying.
I do own a quite powerful rig and a 144hz monitor and found for myself that everything under 60 and now with g sync under 50 (minimum fps not average) is annoying to look at.
I also own a 360 and when it released the hardware was just spectacular for the price and 30 fps wasnt even a discussion.

Point being i do like to play some AAA titles from time to time but for the last couple of years its getting more and more a chore to sift through junk thats badly optimized and/or boring.
Not to mention DLC...

And as a result of this I simply stopped buying AAA games before I played them because i simply cant trust any game dev these days to deliver a playable or enjoyable game.
And as a result i bought a lot less games the past 3 years.

This should be rather worrying for the game industry because i am by far not the only one who does this and i am supposed to be the core audience and i was (i own roughly 300 games 150 steam 150 other platforms like n64, 360, uplay and so on).
These days i basically only play CS GO and like the 2 games a year i know the PC version is good and all because they started gimping PC versions.
Good job games industry you cost yourself one heck of a customer.
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post #198 of 226
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Consoles are not making life hard for PC gamers.
Console makers like MS sure are in fact making our lifes suck more on the pc.
Just by buying a playstation you have supported video game terrorists. sony and ms should be ashamed of them self's for even asking let alone demanding video game companies limit there games on pc to match console version being made for them.

Fighting corruption should be number one goal pc gamers vs these evil bastards. however we got console fan boys like you defending/deflecting hate off of microsoft, who HAS been going around handing developers money to Lock PC at 30 fps.......

If anyone ever asks why there so much hate for "console types" it not that your a console gamer, it's that your defending ms/sony who are scum of the earth. your kind are the reason you have so much hate.

I hate the consoles for what they stand for! , i hate the CEO and leadership of both console companies for trying to corrupt pc gaming to 30 fps. To hell with the console fan boys types, ms/sony company overall and to hell with this 30 fps bull being forced on better gaming system(the pc) All i see is 2 companies that lie and corrupt pc gaming market!

Only thing that clams me down is pc gaming has been around forever, and we sure be alive long after they stop making ps4/xbox one.

I just won't ever trust ms/sony or anyone who defends these scum bags.
Edited by 970Rules - 10/20/14 at 6:12am
post #199 of 226
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Console makers like MS sure are in fact making our lifes suck more on the pc.
Just by buying a playstation you have supported video game terrorists. sony and ms should be ashamed of them self's for even asking let alone demanding video game makers limit there games on pc to match console game being made for them.

Fighting corruption should be number one goal. however we got console fan boys like you defending/deflecting hate off of microsoft, who been going around handing delovepers money to Lock PC at 30 fps.......

If anyone ever asks why there so much hate for "console types" it not that your a console gamer, it's that your defending ms/sony who are scum of the earth. your kind are the reason you have so much hate.

I hate the consoles, i hate the CEO and leadership of both console companies for trying to corrupt pc gaming to 30 fps. To hell with you, your ms/sony company and to hell with this 30 fps bull****.

That I agree. MS made terrible attempts on gaming I agree. While Xbox was a win and a success, their PC gaming thinking was not really on par with PC gamers.

I actually honestly do not believe Sony wants to limit PC games because Sony does not have a horse in PC gaming race. They have their own eco system and their own fans and plus even some hardcore PC gamers get a PS4 for exclusives. Sony can tell developers to lock their games to 30 fps for better eye candy on the console but I doubt they would do so for PC gamers. Microsoft on the other hand, might think different. They might be afraid that PC gaming will totally shift to Linux and instead of losing costumers to Linux, they would rather win customers via Xbox One.

There is so much hate for console because of the superiority complex. Even the way you typed this message says a lot to be honest. Hate is a STRONG word and if you truly hate a 400 dollar equipment you need to look at some aspects of your life deeply.

Get a grip. Really. GAMING in general is a giant market now, and if you truly believe that if consoles never existed things would be much better for PC gamers than you need to rethink everything. Consoles are a necessary part of gaming as much as PCs. Blame the developers sure, blame their laziness or greed, but blaming console and console gamers are childish at best.
post #200 of 226
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That I agree. MS made terrible attempts on gaming I agree.
iARDAs Hate is right word for how i feel right now. Not so much toward a box next to your tv, but ever thing it stands for! stuff like "next gen gaming" lies!

I grow up on consoles . SNES/64/ etc, I didn't go around starting anger rants at them just now like some crazy person does for none-thing.

I understand your logic of "Consoles are a necessary part of gaming as much as PCs" with that said.....

I just feel like being an irrational crazy person towards consoles types now.

Just like you don't see console gamers demanding high quality games WITH quality hardware to run them. There alright with paying for (supporting) crap quality games being made today.
There alright buying a console that is 100% crap hardware, they are supporting low quality , 30 fps games to be our future. and they need to be destroyed is how i feel.

Worst is when they pretend ever-thing is alright, and there no need for change. A tablet cpu running today's top games IS NOT something to be supported ever
"Jul 16, 2012 - AMD's Jaguar CPU will be in tablets that will become available next year, and will be integrated in a chip alongside a powerful graphics"
It was designed for tablets, maybe 900p at 30 is alright for a tablet game/ but not for" next gen" games.


screw it, i know am being irrational, am just gonna go play some games.
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