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? The IPad Air 64GB is $10 cheaper with twice the storage.... Let's just say at best the Nexus will be on par with the build quality of an IPad Air (Which btw also has a bigger screen for less money:thumb:).

I'm not a fan of IOS or Apple's pricing screen but the Air is a fantastic piece of hardware.

Google thinks it can sell a tablet with lower specs for more more money than Apple can? Good luck with that... My elderly parents both have IPad's because that is what they are most familar with. If I showed them a Nexus 9 they would have no clue what it was about and would not be switching from what they are comfortable with.

Apple has already demonstrated via prolific sales that the only way you can cut into IPad sales is to sell much cheaper. Or be on par in price with a vastly superior spec sheet (my Samsung Tab S vs. the Mini Retina for example. Same price point, but the Tab S blows it away from a hardware perspective).

Air isn't shabby @ $399

but how is Nexus 9 inferior spec'd?

yes, it'll likely have worse battery life
sure build quality may not be up to apple's standards, but I really think this one will be pretty darn close from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo1XD32zT1I
same resolution and better PPI ...IGZO might be a tad better than N9's IPS (TBD)
double the RAM (not saying much...it should really be at 4GB)
Denver + Kepler will run circles around the A7 and then some

Your Tab S isn't even in the discussion unless it has custom ROM, because TouchWiz + big.little architecture automatically disqualifies it tongue.gif
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They could have just used 805 but i think they wanted 64-Bit and 810 probably not ready.

The 810 isn't ready but the K1 is superior to the 805 and it's a dual core. It seemed like Google wanted to go all out this year with specs and build quality.

Also all of you comparing the Tegra K1 to the A7/A8 just remember they are also running different operating systems. IOS is optimized to run on these similarities architecture chips while Android is not. The K1 Denver is also the first to actually beat the latest gen from Apple in CPU performance and graphics. While also being a dual core. Which Ti/Qualcomm/Samsung are not able to do on Android using 4/8 cores.
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I was waiting for the confirmation of specs for the Nexus 9 before making my decision, and thanks Google - my decision is *EASILY* made ... that price, with no microSD expansion (yet again rolleyes.gif ) ... it doesn't make the 64bit Tegra chip or extra 1" of screen-space of the Nexus 9 at all appealing enough to choose it over the Xiaomi MiPad, the 64gb version (with a 128gb microSD) now being 100% what I am getting, and still seems to be *THE* price/performance tablet choice (with MiUI 6 working so well and Lollipop confirmed in the works for the MiPad).

I'm voting with my dollars and taking a slight chance on this Chinese company in continuing to further their software development and functionality, since they're knocking their hardware side of things outta the ballpark.
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The 810 isn't ready but the K1 is superior to the 805 and it's a dual core. It seemed like Google wanted to go all out this year with specs and build quality.

Also all of you comparing the Tegra K1 to the A7/A8 just remember they are also running different operating systems. IOS is optimized to run on these similarities architecture chips while Android is not. The K1 Denver is also the first to actually beat the latest gen from Apple in CPU performance and graphics. While also being a dual core. Which Ti/Qualcomm/Samsung are not able to do on Android using 4/8 cores.
This is mostly true but the 64bit Tegra K1 is a tablet SoC(due to its relativily high power consumption) it should not be compared to phone SoC. Anyway, the Snapdragon 810 is supposed to be available somewhere in late Q2 2015, but I dont think the 810 will be great tablet SoC, because of its weak GPU, it will be a 4+4 cores chips so it leave little space on the die for the GPU.

Id like to see a chips with 2 Denver cores and one SMX (instead of 2) for phone ... or maybe wait for a Maxwell SoC ahah.
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Currently with Nexus 7 2013. Don't get me wrong, best screen I've experienced thus far (yet to try out the new note), but I still would like something that can be a few less nits for night time viewing without the sacrifice of colors.

I think AMOLED is the best option. Yes, you lose color fidelity, but setting an AMOLED display to low brightness and then greying the text on a black bg in the kindle app is a great way to read at night with very low battery use and very low eye strain. (or at least it used to be when I had an android phone)
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I like they went with a dual-core SoC. Keen to see some CPU and GPU benchies.
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I can't wait for quad-core Denvers with 2 or 3 Maxwell SMMs....put that in a Nexus/Google Play phone and I'll be white on rice.
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The Tegra K1 denver performance is impressive. I believe the device price is high because the cost of the nVidia's SoC. I currently have a TouchPad and use my One M8 for media consumption and gaming. The Nexus 9 might be the replacement.

I am going to wait to see how warm the tablet gets to the touch along with battery life. I dislike Snapdragon SoCs because the radios get to an uncomfortable heat.

nonsense. chinese manufacturer xiaomi has been selling the xiaomi mipad with the Tegra K-1 for peanuts in a long time.
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Finally the correct aspect ratio, took them long enough.
 
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This is mostly true but the 64bit Tegra K1 is a tablet SoC(due to its relativily high power consumption) it should not be compared to phone SoC. Anyway, the Snapdragon 810 is supposed to be available somewhere in late Q2 2015, but I dont think the 810 will be great tablet SoC, because of its weak GPU, it will be a 4+4 cores chips so it leave little space on the die for the GPU.

Id like to see a chips with 2 Denver cores and one SMX (instead of 2) for phone ... or maybe wait for a Maxwell SoC ahah.

Tegra k1 should have been able to put in a phone easily but the problem is that it wasn't made on 20nm but 28nm. 20nm allows them to cut out a lot of power and thus heat and allows them to make a bigger chip. Its a big victory for Nvidia to make a chip that competes against giants like qualcomm and apple considering these company are Intel sized or greater and this is Nvidias first custom chip.

If K1 was made on 20nm, you would have something easily better than snapdragon 805 and better than the a8.
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