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K1 is not a contender in tablet space, just like Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 & 805 & 810 aren't any better tablet chips than the QCSD S4 Pro found in my Nexus 7 2013.
K1 is definitely a contender in Chromebook space because 10 watts of 3D power consumption doesn't permit a reliable alternative venue to tablet 2D internet surfing which Nexus 7 2013 excels in thriftiness beyond measure at 1.39 watts an hour. It can perform currently unbelievable feats such as 0.39 watts in reader mode, too - which is lower than what most use in stand by.
There is currently no real world benchmark nexus 7 falls short of the competition while all else is unavoidably clumsier.
Edited by mtcn77 - 10/21/14 at 2:19am
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nonsense. chinese manufacturer xiaomi has been selling the xiaomi mipad with the Tegra K-1 for peanuts in a long time.

That isnt the same K1. The mipad has the K1 with 4 standard 32 bit A15 cores.

This K1 being discussed is the one with 2 strong custom 64 bit ARMv8 cores.
post #83 of 102
It sucks that it doesnt have an SD slot, but seriously just buy an OTG drive.
Problem solved
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I can't wait for quad-core Denvers with 2 or 3 Maxwell SMMs....put that in a Nexus/Google Play phone and I'll be white on rice.

I remember reading an article saying that nVidia is going to focus on high end SoCs and most likely only in tablets. Qualcomm is ruling the market with it's radio patents. Probably the reason the US Notes always use Qualcomm for band 4, 700, 1700, 1900 The Note 2 used an Exynos but it had a Qualcomm LTE radio.
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K1 is not a contender in tablet space, just like Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 & 805 & 810 aren't any better tablet chips than the QCSD S4 Pro found in my Nexus 7 2013.
K1 is definitely a contender in Chromebook space because 10 watts of 3D power consumption doesn't permit a reliable alternative venue to tablet 2D internet surfing which Nexus 7 2013 excels in thriftiness beyond measure at 1.39 watts an hour. It can perform currently unbelievable feats such as 0.39 watts in reader mode, too - which is lower than what most use in stand by.
There is currently no real world benchmark nexus 7 falls short of the competition while all else is unavoidably clumsier.

Let's try to be semi-lucid here, OK? First, you claim that the Tegra K1 is a 10W chip, yet the graph you provide shows 2.73W. Where did the other 7.27W go? Perhaps there is something wrong with the graph? If there is, you seem to have no problem using it as a definitive resource in the very next sentence. Bias much?

Yes, the Nexus 7 is quite power efficient. So is a clay brick. Both don't perform adequately compared to the Tegra K1 for many tasks. Even when capped to 30 fps, the K1 is usually provides around 3 *times* the GPU performance and double the CPU perf. Check out Anandtech's review of the Shield tablet power use

I understand the psychology behind your need to justify your purchase, and some of your points even have some validity - like as an e-reader, a Nexus 7 will use less power since it has a feeble SoC and a smaller screen. But others are just outright falsehoods that you really should critically analyze before sharing them publicly and embarrassing yourself.

A TK1 equipped shield tablet can perform tasks that are impossible on the Nexus 7 thanks to its performance and capabilities like GPGPU and OGL 4.4. It has superior perf/W as shown by my own testing and Anandtech. If all we want is an e-reader, any Kindle model is vastly superior to any tablet, lasting up to a month between charges. If we want smooth 30FPS at 1200p gameplay for half-life2-class OGL4.4 games with 5 hours between charges, the Nexus 7 isn't going to work, but the Shield tablet, or the miPad, or the Nexus 9 will.

Finally, the perf/W on the quad-core TK1 looks superior to the A7/A7X SoCs (GPU perf/w ~140%). The Denver variant looks like it may be perf/W competitive with the A8/A8X class despite the latter's full node size advantage.
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If anyone cares I'm getting the Nexus 6! Pablet is the way to go FTW!
post #87 of 102
as someone who owns an nividia shield tablet I can tell you the K1 is awesome, this is the 64bit version so idk if that will make any significant performance differences but other than that I couldn't see buying a n9 over the shield tablet with it being $100 more expensive. The shield also has an sd micro slot, all the nvidia goodies (streaming etc) and is running a completely stock android with the nvidia features added only. It will also get lollipop.
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It sucks that it doesnt have an SD slot, but seriously just buy an OTG drive.
Problem solved
And have it stick out of your tablet, possibly breaking during transportation? Horrible, just horrible.
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And have it stick out of your tablet, possibly breaking during transportation? Horrible, just horrible.
Okay so when you plug a thumb drive or external hard drive into a laptop you remove it when you pack the laptop away ?
Also I'm sorry but if you leave a OTG drive in your tablet than pack it away you deserve to have the port break. I assume the reason your packing the item away is because your not goin to be using it anymore so it makes sense to unplug the thumb drive which isn't in use either.
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And have it stick out of your tablet, possibly breaking during transportation? Horrible, just horrible.

Take it out when your transporting it, not exactly a big deal. Some of them are quite small aswell, I have a corsair 64GB drive, its only about 3cm long, 0.5cm thick. Tbh I'd just prefer that offered 32/64GB devices, think 16/32GB in 2014 is a piss take.
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