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Ryzen 1800X @ 5,5GHZ, Iranian team from Tehran
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Yeah, its an outdated software which haven't been updated for several years now..

I can run 5 GHz now just fine and it passes all the benchmarks, stress test programs and even 1 hour of encoding and rendering so if there was any instability it would have showed up by now.
Although i run it at 4.8 GHz again because i didn't see much gain from 4.8 to 5 GHz to be honest. Only 200 points in CPU-Z benchmark and in cinebench. Temps are A LOT lower at 4.8 due to lower temps.

"stability" is also a relative term because anything electrical can fail even PC components at stock.. You simply loose 100% stability the same time as you start overclocking your system period.. It can take a while but sooner or later the system fails eventually when overclockt due to new added programs which stress the system differently than the programs you determine your stability.

3rd party software is a common reason of system instability that and WIndows of course
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This is true... that's why I'm looking into using OCCT for all entrants... I'm very close to getting it setup actually, I just need time to take care of a few things here and to change the OP.... unfortunately I'm working so many hours its been very hard to have the time to do it.
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Meh, people have been having issues with AVX on the Ryzen CPU's as well.
it was this that intel users first started having issues with... and I was duly warned that ryzen would likely be the same.... as mentioned I'm getting setup to use OCCT... at least at this point it looks like I will be using it.
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it was this that intel users first started having issues with... and I was duly warned that ryzen would likely be the same.... as mentioned I'm getting setup to use OCCT... at least at this point it looks like I will be using it.

I've never used OCCT, is it like Prime 95?
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I've never used OCCT, is it like Prime 95?

It has a wider variety of tests to use, including linepack like ibt does... prime does a lot of tests, but as far as I know all center around one particular type of test with varieties that affect how much memory is used and to some degree what part of the cpu is being used, but not the the same extent that the variety of tests available in OCCT.... at least this is how I have been told.
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It has a wider variety of tests to use, including linepack like ibt does... prime does a lot of tests, but as far as I know all center around one particular type of test with varieties that affect how much memory is used and to some degree what part of the cpu is being used, but not the the same extent that the variety of tests available in OCCT.... at least this is how I have been told.

I was checking out their site, will give OCCT a spin, looks like a better option over Prime 95, I also use AIDA64 Extreme which gives some great details on the system.

Getting a new unused P43 board to overclock an old Intel Q8400 of mine, OCCT may help improve the OC on that.
Another user on the forum has managed to push his up to 4ghz, a 1.34ghz increase over stock, old modo has only options for FSB, so most I can get is 3.2ghz.
My old Celeron E3300 clocks higher on the mobo at 3.6ghz. Just doing it for fun.

Still wondering how the Iranian team hit 5.5ghz on the Ryzen 1800x.
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@Hurricane28

Could you do a comparison for me? If you wouldn't mind with a please!

I'm asking for a temp and time comparison for AMD FX processor IBT vs IBT AVX. Time and Temp. Simply record Max temp for each and the time for each. If you feel the need for consistency, wash rinse repeat a few times. But remember to leave a cool down time between runs.

I would love to do this, but I don't have a running FX platform at this time.

Thanks,
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Sorry for my late reply man but ive been very busy with encoding and editing my clips i shot last week. There is an exercise called Frisian Flag which is an military drill with all kinds of fighter jets including 4 American F-15 eagles. I film this and put them together.

Next Monday they will start and the drill last for 2 weeks so i don't think i can find the time to do a little test unfortunately. I do know that IBT doesn't heat up the CPU like the AVX version does simply due to its AVX instruction, how much i don't know exactly but you can test this for yourself if you like which get you a much more accurate result since my system is different from yours and lots of other things come in to play.

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@Hurricane28

Could you do a comparison for me? If you wouldn't mind with a please!

I'm asking for a temp and time comparison for AMD FX processor IBT vs IBT AVX. Time and Temp. Simply record Max temp for each and the time for each. If you feel the need for consistency, wash rinse repeat a few times. But remember to leave a cool down time between runs.

I would love to do this, but I don't have a running FX platform at this time.

Thanks,
Shrimp

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This is true... that's why I'm looking into using OCCT for all entrants... I'm very close to getting it setup actually, I just need time to take care of a few things here and to change the OP.... unfortunately I'm working so many hours its been very hard to have the time to do it.

Cool man thumb.gif

I still don't understand why i can't get 5 GHz to work in IBT AVX man.. it boggles my mind lol.

I can run 4.9 GHz with 2500 MHz RAM and 2700 MHz CPU-NB and HT but i fail at 5 GHz CPU, 2400 MHz RAM and 2600 CPU-NB and HT...? IMO this doesn't make any sense. I tried OCCT at 5 GHz but it was getting too hot for comfort so i am rocking it at 4.8 again. Might try to go for 4.9 today as my system felt a lot snappier at that speed. Strangely is that when i passed IBT AVX i got very nice Gflops but in CPU-Z i get low scores for some reason... This proofed me that how poor IBT AVX really is, one moment you can pass IBT and the next time you want to run it again it might crash..

Never had this with OCCT though so i am glad you change IBT AVX for OCCT as its a much better tool thumb.gif
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Sorry for my late reply man but ive been very busy with encoding and editing my clips i shot last week. There is an exercise called Frisian Flag which is an military drill with all kinds of fighter jets including 4 American F-15 eagles. I film this and put them together.

Next Monday they will start and the drill last for 2 weeks so i don't think i can find the time to do a little test unfortunately. I do know that IBT doesn't heat up the CPU like the AVX version does simply due to its AVX instruction, how much i don't know exactly but you can test this for yourself if you like which get you a much more accurate result since my system is different from yours and lots of other things come in to play.

Cool man thumb.gif

I still don't understand why i can't get 5 GHz to work in IBT AVX man.. it boggles my mind lol.

I can run 4.9 GHz with 2500 MHz RAM and 2700 MHz CPU-NB and HT but i fail at 5 GHz CPU, 2400 MHz RAM and 2600 CPU-NB and HT...? IMO this doesn't make any sense. I tried OCCT at 5 GHz but it was getting too hot for comfort so i am rocking it at 4.8 again. Might try to go for 4.9 today as my system felt a lot snappier at that speed. Strangely is that when i passed IBT AVX i got very nice Gflops but in CPU-Z i get low scores for some reason... This proofed me that how poor IBT AVX really is, one moment you can pass IBT and the next time you want to run it again it might crash..

Never had this with OCCT though so i am glad you change IBT AVX for OCCT as its a much better tool thumb.gif

I'm mostly waiting on a couple days off from work so I can do the runs and screenshots for the OP... I need a few hours that I can try different levels of stress... I'm not wanting to make it too hard to get in because passing IBT avx at standard isn't that hard...it's quick and pretty easy...but on very high it gets much harder... so I'm looking to make the OCCT test I choose be more like that standard run... I know that it will not be indicative of 100% stability, but as we already mentioned "stability is relative"... so basically I'm looking for that level of stability that will allow for "safe" 24/7 running without corrupting the OS and apps too quickly or causing strange behavior, but not looking for server grade stability... I know that sounds a bit like I'm rambling, but I hope it does explain at least why the process has been delayed.... I know my 5ghz profile is stable...actually more so than my laptop at stock lol... I've run it for over a week doing heavy compute tasks with no errors or troubles of any kind... but most people don't need that level.... anyway, I hope all will be patient with me redface.gif while I am working on this.
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I'm mostly waiting on a couple days off from work so I can do the runs and screenshots for the OP... I need a few hours that I can try different levels of stress... I'm not wanting to make it too hard to get in because passing IBT avx at standard isn't that hard...it's quick and pretty easy...but on very high it gets much harder... so I'm looking to make the OCCT test I choose be more like that standard run... I know that it will not be indicative of 100% stability, but as we already mentioned "stability is relative"... so basically I'm looking for that level of stability that will allow for "safe" 24/7 running without corrupting the OS and apps too quickly or causing strange behavior, but not looking for server grade stability... I know that sounds a bit like I'm rambling, but I hope it does explain at least why the process has been delayed.... I know my 5ghz profile is stable...actually more so than my laptop at stock lol... I've run it for over a week doing heavy compute tasks with no errors or troubles of any kind... but most people don't need that level.... anyway, I hope all will be patient with me redface.gif while I am working on this.

I understand man, no rush and take your time thumb.gif

Stability is indeed a relative term and there is no such thing as absolute stability..

The best way IMO is to run a few benchmarks like, CinebenchR15, CPU-Z benchmark and look for consistent performance. What i mean is that you run the tests multiple times 4-6 times and if the performance is consistent i call it "semi stable" which means that you can run benchmarks, browsing etc. Than you can do some gaming in games which use a lot of CPU, BF1 for example stresses my CPU to the max and i get very high temps compared to some other games. If this all works fine it doesn't mean that you can do everything with your machine just yet, if temps are okay during these tests you can try OCCT with AVX enabled for half an hour, this stresses the CPU to its absolute limit and it will show how high your temps can get to the max. If that is running fine, you can test for longer periods of time but IMO its not really necessary as in my own testing, i never got BSOD or corruption. Testing for stability is really hard and it can take A LOT of time as all our systems are wildly different.

It also depends on how you are going to use it, IMO if you do A LOT of rendering and encoding and other very heavy tasks on a daily basis, i would highly recommend not to overclock at all.. most software like Adobe After effects, Premiere pro, Sony Vegas will eventually crash because you are using your system to its absolute limit for long periods of time and as mentioned before, there is no such thing as absolute stability which we agreed on.

Now i am not saying that you actually said this but i find it kinda offensive if people are calling you (in general) out if you claim stability but don't show "proof" of it by showing an screen shot of IBT AVX..
I actually seen people shout at and name calling for no reason at all simply because they couldn't get IBT AVX 'stable" for 10 runs... Its ridiculous..

Good luck and i am looking forward to your new OP thumb.gif
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Any differences vs 50x100 and 25x200 or 40*125 for people running 5000mhz when running with faster ram? It's not linked anymore so it won't affect PCI-E stuff.
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