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I had no idea but the second PCI-E even though it clearly looks like a pci-e 8x can only run in 4x mode. IN the BIOS there is no other option beside PCI-e 4x/0x/0x or 2x/1x/1x.



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Running Crossfire R9 290 , is there anyway to enable 8x/8x configuration on MSI z97 gaming 3... If not worth the extra $150-200 for native 8/8x configuration? seems pretty stupid to put a pci-e 8x slot and the motherboard only use 4x frown.gif. The second card is running PCI-e 2.0 4x
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The 2nd x16 slot was designed to run at 4X. You have to upgrade your motherboard to run at 8/8.

http://game.msi.com/product/motherboard/z97-gaming/models

If you read this article, maybe you'll lose only about 5% in performance. Not worth the $200 upgrade.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/1.html
Edited by sweenytodd - 10/16/14 at 4:29am
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Well for a 60hz @1920x1080p you dont need more than one 29.people says that the 60hz monitors only can show 60fps even w/o vsync.

The only you can do is upgrade the mobo/monitor or try downsampling but just will show 2560x1440(+/-) but still 60
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Originally Posted by sweenytodd View Post

The 2nd x16 slot was designed to run at 4X. You have to upgrade your motherboard to run at 8/8.

http://game.msi.com/product/motherboard/z97-gaming/models

If you read this article, maybe you'll lose only about 5% in performance. Not worth the $200 upgrade.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/1.html


Hmm I still should upgrade the motherboard. 5% can help still and for future gaming that will need the extra bandwidth.

Say how much could I sell my current motherboard for?

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Well for a 60hz @1920x1080p you dont need more than one 29.people says that the 60hz monitors only can show 60fps even w/o vsync.

The only you can do is upgrade the mobo/monitor or try downsampling but just will show 2560x1440(+/-) but still 60

I will choose to downsample or use lots of AA smile.gif
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op, do you mind comparing results? 290s @ 1100 core and 1400 mem . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8842661

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'Lots of AA' wont make more use of a second card at 1080 than a higher resolution
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I do play bf4 1080p ultra (with 4x AA) and 133% resolution scale. Which equals about 2560x1440



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Then it is fine but not all game have over-resolution settings,that`s why downsampling is needed
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Ended up getting new Motherboard. This will fix the problem

Anyone wanna buy 3 week old MSI Gaming 3?

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