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Hello everyone, as the title suggests, I am looking for some suggestions on which components to build a custom loop for my machine. Even if you link me to huge walls of text at least you are being more helpful than people who say "google it" or "do your own research". The only reason I took the time to create this thread was because my impression of this site's community was that if I genuinely asked for help on specifics, I would not be flamed biggrin.gif

My machine is in my signature and if you are too lazy to look, here is a short breakdown of the components. 4790k, maximus vii formula, 16GB Dominator Platinum @ 1866, corsair 110 cpu cooler, 4 noctua 140 mm in push pull, 2x 780 ti kingpin, and a corsair 900d case.

I am basically locked into the ekwb 780ti classy blocks for both my cards. As for the rest of the loop, I have absolutely no idea what components would be ideal. I am guessing for the remaining components I would need to grab would be as follows:

-CPU block
-Tubing
-Pump
-Reservoir
-Compression fittings?
-Rads
-More noctua fans

The sizes and models of all these would be helpful if possible and if it comes down to personal preference on something, it would be helpful to note that instead of assuming I know it. I really don't have any information on water cooling loop components and it is a bit overwhelming. I have some expensive hardware and the last thing I want to do is rush into a loop and end up ruining it all.

What I would really love is for some experienced people to share their knowledge of products and loop designs with me.
$ is not an issue here (within reason.. I don't want to spend $5k on a water loop)
I just want to know what items people are recommending for this type of loop and how the loop should flow etc.
I am confident in my ability to build it, but as far as where to mount things and what type of tubing to get I am at a complete loss.

I have a TON of room in this case and it isn't being used yet. Any and all suggestions are welcome!
post #2 of 10
A few things - first, what speed are you planning to run the loop at?

High speed fans means louder, but also that you need high fpi (think Black Ice GTX) radiators.

CPU block, GPU block don't make a huge difference performance wise, neither does tubing diameter or reservoir. Use as little tubing as possible and avoid kinks though. Pump - make sure it's enough, but having super high flow rates doesn't improve performance much.

Oh, and use something other than Noctua fans. They are inferior in terms of performance per decibel. Gentle Typhoons were the best, but they are hard to come by nowadays. Noiseblocker e-Loops are an inferior substitute. San Ace fans, Delta AFB, Panaflo, and the industrial fans when undervolted are your best bet in terms of price to performance.

If you want a low maintenance loop, for tubing, I'd recommend Norprene, although it's a bit more costly. Otherwise, Duralene is a good, cost-effective choice that does not leech plasticizer.

Fittings wise, Bitspower are the most well regarded, but expensive. Barrow is almost identical and much cheaper.


Edit:
You have a 900D. I'd recommend getting 2 480 radiators. One at the bottom and the other on top. That should be more than enough to cool all components and if you want to upgrade, it leaves room.
Edited by CrazyElf - 10/16/14 at 2:55pm
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If you're set on EKWB GPU blocks, then I would just stick with an EKWB theme for the CPU and radiators. How the loop flows doesn't matter as long as the reservoir comes before the pump.

You have a Corsair 900D case? Looks like you have lots of room to fit 60mm thick radiators where ever you want. Getting thick radiators means you can put the rad fans at low speed and still have reasonable cool temperatures if you want reduce noise levels. You have alot of room to work with so you need to decide if you want a super clean look or computer for performance. You can put a rad on top and place one in the bottom out of view for a cleaner look. Or you can go rad on top, rad on front and even rad on bottom for performance. But general rule of thumb is 120mm for every component in the loop so 120mm for CPU, 120mm for GPU1, 120mm GPU2, and another 120mm for overclocking.

You have tube reservoirs versus bay reservoirs. This is aesthetics. You decide which you want. I personally like the tube look.

Bitspower is the most popular brand of compression fittings. I use Duralene tubing because no plasticizers. As for size of fittings and tubing depends on the look you want.
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post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by CrazyElf View Post

A few things - first, what speed are you planning to run the loop at?

High speed fans means louder, but also that you need high fpi (think Black Ice GTX) radiators.

CPU block, GPU block don't make a huge difference performance wise, neither does tubing diameter or reservoir. Use as little tubing as possible and avoid kinks though. Pump - make sure it's enough, but having super high flow rates doesn't improve performance much.

Thanks for the reply biggrin.gif

FPI=???
Also the gpu blocks are i think the only ones that fit my card without modding. By fit, I mean they cover all the components including the VRM. The info you have provided is great though thank you.

Aesthetically, my build is pretty generic. I am going for that though. Black with red accents. Hence the rog mobo, evga red individually sleeved cables, and the dual kingpins. I don't need the loop to be extravagant looking but i need it to "fit" with the theme. Simple and striking. The noctua fans are definitely not necessary and I am glad to hear that there are alternatives. Frankly, I am puzzled as to what build theme those fans' color scheme would fit in...
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If you're set on EKWB GPU blocks, then I would just stick with an EKWB theme for the CPU and radiators. How the loop flows doesn't matter as long as the reservoir comes before the pump.

You have a Corsair 900D case? Looks like you have lots of room to fit 60mm thick radiators where ever you want. Getting thick radiators means you can put the rad fans at low speed and still have reasonable cool temperatures if you want reduce noise levels. You have alot of room to work with so you need to decide if you want a super clean look or computer for performance. You can put a rad on top and place one in the bottom out of view for a cleaner look. Or you can go rad on top, rad on front and even rad on bottom for performance. But general rule of thumb is 120mm for every component in the loop so 120mm for CPU, 120mm for GPU1, 120mm GPU2, and another 120mm for overclocking.

You have tube reservoirs versus bay reservoirs. This is aesthetics. You decide which you want. I personally like the tube look.

Bitspower is the most popular brand of compression fittings. I use Duralene tubing because no plasticizers. As for size of fittings and tubing depends on the look you want.

I appreciate the input and I have a few things to address as well as a few follow up questions.

I would like to eventually have my cpu, both gpus, and my RAM (i know this doesn't impact the loop in any way) overclocked to something like ~5GHz for the CPU, 1500Mhz core for the GPUs, and the RAM would be the XMP 1866. As far as rads go, would 2 480 radiators be sufficient for this? Does it make a difference having more smaller rads vs less larger?

As for reservoirs, I love the tube look but want something that won't break or spill everywhere if I am doing any sort of maintenance on the loop.

Diameter for tubing and fittings is aesthetic/personal preference from what I am gathering so I can look in to that a bit further on my own.

How about pump/reservoir combos?

Also need brands for these things! Assume I know nothing! biggrin.gif

At work at the moment. I have to cut this post short, I'll reply soon with the rest of everything I wanted to say.
post #5 of 10
My only suggestion is avoid XSPC pumps. Specially the 750 v4. Looking for a replacement now.

Also this may just be me but at work we can't even get the 4790k's to over turbo without them hitting 80-90C so I don't know how 5GHz would even happen
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i would suggest one of these kits It comes with everything you need for a cpu only loop, so you will have to get fittings for your gpu blocks. The kit is expandable, so you can just add rads and blocks to it. The photon res/pump combo is very nice and the raystorm block is one of the best.
FPI = fins per inch, in reference to your radiators. The higher the number the more potential performance, but you will need better fans to get it. specifically, fans with a high static pressure.
as for brands, they all have good stuff. My loop has bitspower cpu block and a few fittings, swiftech rads, primochill tubing, monsoon and enzotech fittings, xspc pump/res, and corsair fans.
One thing i did before i bought anything was to just browse frozen/ppcs and absorb as much info as possible about the products that are available, You'd be surprised just how much shopping can teach you biggrin.gif
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post #7 of 10
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Thanks for all the info guys. This is a great starting point and contains a lot of valuable information. I must have gotten lucky as my chip runs pretty cold. 5GHz is just a target to shoot for, not a deal breaker by any means.
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Thanks for all the info guys. This is a great starting point and contains a lot of valuable information. I must have gotten lucky as my chip runs pretty cold. 5GHz is just a target to shoot for, not a deal breaker by any means.

Yeah YMMV. Just in my experience every 4790K ive worked with even on a full loop. Goes from 30c to an instant 65-70c during prime. Literally instantly
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To hit a stable 5 on a 4790k you are probably gonna have concentrate on making sure your Thermal paste is quality stuff like Gelid Extreme and spread right and you have quality contact from the heat spreader and the waterblock. That or win the silicone lottery, or probably a bit of both. That's going to be where you get held back on 5 ghz, not on your rad space and pumps. Unless you can somehow lower your ambient water temps down low (like having one of your radiators sitting in a tub of ice water), ofcourse.
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Thanks for all the info guys. This is a great starting point and contains a lot of valuable information. I must have gotten lucky as my chip runs pretty cold. 5GHz is just a target to shoot for, not a deal breaker by any means.
Intel's TIM works fine for stock chip(88 watts) but with a 4.7+ OC Deliding the cpu and replacing Intel's TIM with CLP or CLU and removing the black adhesive for better core contact will drop your load temps and voltage and make 5 Ghz stable overclock more likely.
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