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Originally Posted by FattysGoneWild View Post

People with caps. And many are out there. They will be none to pleased with many not even being able to download it.

Valid point, however, with a global market MS, or any developer/publisher for that matter, can't address every demographics needs and constraints. There can't always be a "Hey we need to cut back here or else we'll be excluding all those with data caps or bandwidth issues."

Imagine if they said "hey we shouldn't go HD on the 360, we'll be excluding all those with without HD TVs". Now that's not quite an apples to apples comparison, but disk media won't always be a viable means to distribute large data. At some point companies like MS will have to make a gamble hard choice and do what they think is best for the future foundation of gaming. Xbox Live's requirement of a cable modem was one of those and look how well that paid off...

At some point, people with these data caps or 1mpbs pipes will be in the minority of their target demographic - they might already be.

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Woah, that's a massive update. People with low dl speeds/caps like me will rage about this tongue.gif
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Meh. Who cares about the update size? All I wanted was the mjolnir edition, and it's sold out. mad.gif

The people with limited data or Internet so slow it would take hours, if not days to download.

The only really appeal to console gaming was the fact that you could put the disc in and start playing. Or at least it used to be.
    
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i love buying something waiting 2-3 hours for downloads.

The patch will be pre-loadable like the full 45GB game so it can be ready on game day.
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Valid point, however, with a global market MS, or any developer/publisher for that matter, can't address every demographics needs and constraints. There can't always be a "Hey we need to cut back here or else we'll be excluding all those with data caps or bandwidth issues."

Imagine if they said "hey we shouldn't go HD on the 360, we'll be excluding all those with without HD TVs". Now that's not quite an apples to apples comparison, but disk media won't always be a viable means to distribute large data. At some point companies like MS will have to make a gamble hard choice and do what they think is best for the future foundation of gaming. Xbox Live's requirement of a cable modem was one of those and look how well that paid off...

At some point, people with these data caps or 1mpbs pipes will be in the minority of their target demographic - they might already be.
Why don't they just make a game that doesn't require 20GB of patches to be downloaded? I still fail to understand what bugfix could take up 20GB.
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Why don't they just make a game that doesn't require 20GB of patches to be downloaded? I still fail to understand what bugfix could take up 20GB.
even better point. This is a pretty ambitious project. They could've just sold Halo 2 anniversary and called it a day. It would've sold millions.

Instead we get more than we asked for just $60. 20GB, just a splinter in a basket of goodies. Guess I'm just more forgiving due to the value of the game, and I'm not affected by any infrastructure adversities (being in the richest county in the country helps I suppose)
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post #107 of 137
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even better point. This is a pretty ambitious project. They could've just sold Halo 2 anniversary and called it a day. It would've sold millions.

Instead we get more than we asked for just $60. 20GB, just a splinter in a basket of goodies. Guess I'm just more forgiving due to the value of the game, and I'm not affected by any infrastructure adversities (being in the richest county in the country helps I suppose)

unfortunately us internet infrastructure and level of personal wealth are not in sync whatsoever. if they did i wouldn't be constantly raging at my ping going up to 200 all the time.

still a nice package of games though and worth the $60 more than most new games
Edited by perfectblade - 10/19/14 at 12:31pm
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This would be a huge pain in the butt, only good for a few times a year, but is it possible to download the game at a friends house using their Xbox, then transfer the game file to an external hard drive to take back to your own house (assuming your buddy is the one with the good bandwidth)

Does the storage management let you get to that level?
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post #109 of 137
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It's not a patch. It's part of the game code that they needed to change or create or something and didn't have enough time to put the code on the game's disc. What patch could possibly be 20 GB in size? A patch is something to fix a bug. Bug fixes are usually at most a few MB in size. This can't be a patch to fix bugs. Not even graphical fixes are 20 GB in size. This is core stuff that they didn't have time to get into the game that they decided to put online and make people download. So it's basically 1/4 of the actual game or something crazy big like that. I'd like to see someone post a youtube video of them playing the game unpatched.

Dude no code is 20 GB compiled. It is almost definitely a graphical fix. Or cinematics, who knows.
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post #110 of 137
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Dude no code is 20 GB compiled. It is almost definitely a graphical fix. Or cinematics, who knows.
that's right.

Let's remember that there are esessentially 5 different games here.

Halo CE Anniversary, Halo 2 (original), Halo 2 Anniversary, Halo 3, Halo 4, the soundtracks for each (2 for Halo 2), every single multiplayer map plus the PC maps and remastered maps, then 1 hour of BLUR cinematics. Who knows what the encoding quality will be, but I can't imagine they'll cut any corners on those.


That's just a lot of data.
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