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I own an Asus vw266h 1900x1200 25.5" , which I been really satisfyed with since 5 years or so now, but I think it is slowly dying, I'm not gonna describe the main problem in details as I already created a thread about it, basically when I start it up it goes in "hertzian no channel mode" during some time until it stabilize and finally shows image, sometimes then I need to restart once more because you can see each pixel on the screen and it "bleeds" basically, when you open a window and close it you can still see some parts of it after... sigh, lol

So then it works, after a restart, been like that since months now I think.. but now sometimes I get a random flicker/screen just goes weird for one second then goes back to normal.. I don't think it could be my graphic card, altought I seen some weird artifacts playing Far Cry 3 (could be the game itself too..) but I think my screen is really dying..

So I was looking at replacements so that when it dies I know what to get, needless to say it sucks as the money I have spare right now was supposed to go for a graphic card meh ! so let's hope it doesn't die soon lol.

Anyway I wanted a 1900x1200 16:10 again cause I can't see myself going to 1080p.. the problem though is all the good monitors I could find that are really tempting are all 1080p mad.gif, for instance there are two screens that I found that are reaally tempting : Iiyama ProLite G2773HS which seems really good .. 120hz 27".. for 220 euros or the Asus VG248QE 24" 144hz, bit more expensive but look even more reactive.

So yea I'm looking for a screen with alot of reactivity too !

So I was wondering if any of you guys knew of any good 1900x1200 with higher refresh rates, or just your recommendations, of course don't have funds to go for higher 4k res lol, but I just got a job ...and I was interested in the 144hz IPS-type panels that are gonna be release in the future (hopefully soon!!).
Edited by StrongForce - 10/17/14 at 9:51am
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I just gad the pleasure of using the asus VG screen.

I too came from a 16:10 screen.

All I can say is holy crap. Buy it. The refresh rate is nice, but light boost is just a miracle.

Light boost will make the screen darker, but the in game smootherness is amazing.
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holy you're tempting me biggrin.gif, never heard of that feature sounds good what is it exactly ?? makes the screen darker but even faster response rate ? I guess google is my friend lol, oh I see it's a Nvidia only thing !! darker but screen is locked at 120hz ?


me gonna need to get a 970 too ..I think, if only the price wasn't so high in europe, and also there wasn't this whole coil whine/locked voltage issues (read on the 900's series official thread and on the web).

But I'm still not so motivated to switch from 25.5 1900x1200 to 24 16:9 though frown.gif I think I'm too used for the 16:10 now it's gonna feel too weird to go on 16:9 and I'm miss the massive height...

Can you really tell you don't care that much about that ?

Think I'll have to go in a shop or something and see a 16:9 24" first to make sure it's not too much different from what I have now.. one thing is sure though the response time really seems attractive on a french website called "lesnumérique" they show crazy uber fast responsivity .. also the english version of that website is called digitalversus, but there are less reviews I think, not sure.

PS : by researching light boost I see some people run a "hack" to run it with amd hardware, good to know also..
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Make the Upgrade to 27" 1440p thumb.gif

So worth it biggrin.gif
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holy you're tempting me biggrin.gif, never heard of that feature sounds good what is it exactly ?? makes the screen darker but even faster response rate ? I guess google is my friend lol, oh I see it's a Nvidia only thing !! me gonna need to get a 970 too ..

But I'm still not so motivated to switch from 25.5 1900x1200 to 24 16:9 though frown.gif I think I'm too used for the 16:10 now it's gonna feel too weird to go on 16:9 and I'm miss the massive height...

Can you really tell you don't care that much about that ?

Think I'll have to go in a shop or something and see a 16:9 24" first to make sure it's not too much different from what I have now.. one thing is sure though the response time really seems attractive on a french website called "lesnumérique" they show crazy uber fast responsivity .. also the english version of that website is called digitalversus, but there are less reviews I think, not sure.

Go to www.blurbusters.com and check out their light boost section. Essentially the back lighting will strobe on and off in sync with the refresh rate. So think of it this way. you are essentially adding in time where your screen is black. This happens so fast that all the human eye can see is that the screen is darker.

You are going to have to go through blur busters to get a better idea of what light boost is though.

Honestly thought I was in the same boat as you. It is really amazing just how quickly you adjust. I mean I am a really....REALLY picky person, and I truly have no regrets.

I will also add though, that the BenQ XL2420TE is supposedly better than the asus screen. The asus screen was like the very first monitor with this technology and then BenQ is said to have improved upon it.

IDK if that is true or not because I have not seen the BenQ, but it seems like it is common knowledge. I would take that notion with a large grain of salt, but it does seem believable.
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Make the Upgrade to 27" 1440p thumb.gif

So worth it biggrin.gif

Mmh yea but not going to go to IPS while it's still 60hz though, I play alot of FPS's and I can't deal with tearing ! and from what I understood IPS panels are really not designed for fast FPS.. I just can't wait to see 1440p IPS-type 144hz reviews..

If I had tons of money I'd get one only for RPGs, Starcraft etc though, that would be PRO thumb.gif


And @Angel, mmh yea that benQ sounds good, lol first review on amazon the guy says he returned the Asus due to bad color reproduction, he says if you wanna mess arround with profile and change it for every game go for that one (asus) but meh ? seriously, if you find the right setting you don't need to change it anymore !! at least it's what I thought, and it's quite easy to look arround for people's settings to try, even some people have calibrating devices so..

Also amazon says there is a newer model : BenQ XL2420Z

And lol the first comment guy post his color profile made with a colorimeter, see !! biggrin.gif

"First up, the main reason you would buy this monitor is the Blur Reduction tech. The monitor achieves this by strobing the backlight off during pixel transition. That way you only see full frames. This monitor has a timing bug where it is strobing at the wrong time. The top half of the monitor looks great, but the bottom half has a double image. It still looks better than a non-strobed monitor, but its clearly not right."

Some guy said that ?? not sure what to make of that.

He does talk about that blur busters, haven't really had time to check it out, I'm tired and want to go sleep will definately do it tomorow, altought, without wanting to sound too lazy, I prefer things that work on the fly..

Altought just a quick look at the about section and you see the picture of lightboost ghosting, amazing, I just wished it was something that worked in the push of a button, oh well and if it's something you set once and then it's permanent, I mean no big deal I can do that smile.gif. and hopefully it doesn't sacrifice anything else for the speed !

Cool to hear about this new technology.

Also for that newer BenQ some people mention settings resetting each time they start it up.. not fun !
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Have you thought about an Asus PA246 or 248 monitor?
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I have that same monitor and it was doing the exact same thing and it all started with power up issues about a year ago and then it just got worse over time. I am thinking it's the DC filter caps on the power board which i am trying to get around to replacing them with better quality ones. This seems to be a common issue with these about 3-4 years down the line because they decided to use crap quality caps.

I replaced mine about 6 months ago and decided to go the Korean route and got the 1440p Qnix Evolution II DVI-D only model. Really happy with it and I also liked the 16:10 better myself but when it comes down my Qnix versus the old one, it overclocks to almost 120 with custom timings and I keep my refresh rate at 96Hz 90% of the time. in short, I am not really missing my 16:10 aspect ratio one bit.
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Have you thought about an Asus PA246 or 248 monitor?

Holy just saw a review and didn't know there were IPS panels with so low reactivity, so is it really that good even for FPS ??

http://img1.lesnumeriques.com/test/68/6879/pa246q-temps-remanence.jpg

that's only like double the fastest TN monitors.. that average like 4-5ms impressive ! mmh just noticed in the picture they say pa246q.. though not sure what's up with that..

So you use the trace-free option at 40(like they recommend) and can't notice any ghosting or barely in FPS ? http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates lool I get random frame drops that looks ugly big slow downs for a couple pixels wth.gif

I trust it but a picture would be worth a thousand words lolol biggrin.gif.

only downside they say is the power consumption (I guess it's only a few more watts than TN..) so no big deal, and the contrast compared to other IPS panels I suppose, which still must be awesome, oh and the price of course, 450 swiss franks.. that's expensive, but I got to say it is very very tempting to try this monitor .. and the 246 isn't available anywhere anymore by the way.
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Mmh yea but not going to go to IPS while it's still 60hz though, I play alot of FPS's and I can't deal with tearing ! and from what I understood IPS panels are really not designed for fast FPS.. I just can't wait to see 1440p IPS-type 144hz reviews..

If I had tons of money I'd get one only for RPGs, Starcraft etc though, that would be PRO thumb.gif


And @Angel, mmh yea that benQ sounds good, lol first review on amazon the guy says he returned the Asus due to bad color reproduction, he says if you wanna mess arround with profile and change it for every game go for that one (asus) but meh ? seriously, if you find the right setting you don't need to change it anymore !! at least it's what I thought, and it's quite easy to look arround for people's settings to try, even some people have calibrating devices so..

Also amazon says there is a newer model : BenQ XL2420Z

And lol the first comment guy post his color profile made with a colorimeter, see !! biggrin.gif

"First up, the main reason you would buy this monitor is the Blur Reduction tech. The monitor achieves this by strobing the backlight off during pixel transition. That way you only see full frames. This monitor has a timing bug where it is strobing at the wrong time. The top half of the monitor looks great, but the bottom half has a double image. It still looks better than a non-strobed monitor, but its clearly not right."

Some guy said that ?? not sure what to make of that.

He does talk about that blur busters, haven't really had time to check it out, I'm tired and want to go sleep will definately do it tomorow, altought, without wanting to sound too lazy, I prefer things that work on the fly..

Altought just a quick look at the about section and you see the picture of lightboost ghosting, amazing, I just wished it was something that worked in the push of a button, oh well and if it's something you set once and then it's permanent, I mean no big deal I can do that smile.gif. and hopefully it doesn't sacrifice anything else for the speed !

Cool to hear about this new technology.

Also for that newer BenQ some people mention settings resetting each time they start it up.. not fun !

Pretty much the Reason I got one of those Overclocking 1440p monitors.

I can't stand tearing, and refuse to use vsync.

Though I can't stand TN for color and viewing angles. I do have two other 120hz TN monitors I now use as side monitors to my 1440p. As you can see in my sig.

At 96hz on my 1440p I eliminate more than 90% of tears. Games like TitanFall are pretty bad when it comes to tearing at 60hz for me, 96hz and I don't even see them. Now 96hz doesn't eliminate them completely, just makes to more rare to see them. Though I've see tearing @ 120hz on my TN too, but that is even more rare.

60hz is a joke regardless, and could never go back.


1440p is such a huge upgrade over 1080p in terms of res and overall desktop area, I couldn't go back. And IPS has pretty decent frame response time these days, better than VA but still worse than TN. 1440p @ 96hz is noticeably better than my old TN screen @60. Though lightboost is where it is at if you really want to get rid of motion blur, I'm not as competitive as I used to be. So Motion Blur I can deal with, as long as there isn't too much of it. I just want smooth action and little to no tearing. And I got it. I picked up my XStar for $289 new on ebay. Uses a Samsung PLS panel, that also uses a great semi gloss panel. Which gives you the greatness of a mate screen with the clearness of a glossy.

Next monitor for me will be ether a 1440p with some type of syncing ability, lightboost/high hz, or 4k with the same said effects.
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Holy just saw a review and didn't know there were IPS panels with so low reactivity, so is it really that good even for FPS ??
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Yeah IPS/PLS screens are not what they used to be. They are much improved when it comes to things like response times.

Only thing that needs improving on IPS now is Black Levels, as currently VA panels are best when it comes to that. But Finding one that isn't 60hz with lack luster response times is pretty much a no go. They are being improved though, and iirc there are a couple new VA panels that are coming out that improves upon some of those aspects.
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