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There is a version of the Swiftech hub with molex, I have one.

And Doyll, I read through about 30 motherboard manuals in the last week and several of them send a full +5V signal on the 4th line (not sure why):


You are correct about mine:




But the newer boards have this:




I could be reading that wrong I admit.
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post #22 of 43
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There is a version of the Swiftech hub with molex, I have one.

Looks like the retail version comes with SATA instead of Molex. Is one better than the other?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20988/ele-1196/Swiftech_8-Way_PWM_Cable_Splitter_-_SATA_Power_8W-PWM-SPL-ST.html
post #23 of 43
They are identical, with a 12V line and a ground, it all depends on which connectors you have more of.
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post #24 of 43
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There are much better coolers than the 212 for similar money. The Define R4 is a great case, but the stock fans are not as good as they could be. I've set up a few R4's using PWM case fans controlled by CPU and GPU PWM signals. Check out the links below.

Which CPU cooler do you recommend for similar money?

And do all GPUs have a PWM header?

What do you think of this Phanteks hub compared to the Swiftech unit?

Both use 12v power from PSU. and PWM signal from motherboard but that is as far as the similarity goes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811984004

Phanteks PWM hub uses PWM signal to regulate / adjust voltage to 3-pin fans.

Swifteech PWM splitter hub splits the PWM signal to 8 4-pin fan headers with 12v power on pin-2

Do you want to limit your cooling to a $35.00 cooler? The bigger / better the cooler is, the quieter it will cool your CPU .. because more cooling ability means cooler does not need as much air / fan speed. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 10/18/14 at 10:18am
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Do you want to limit your cooling to a $35.00 cooler? The bigger / better the cooler is, the quieter it will cool your CPU .. because more cooling ability means cooler does not need as much air / fan speed. wink.gif

I just chose the 212 Evo because it was recommended to me. I don't know much about this stuff.

Any particular model you would recommend?
post #26 of 43
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Originally Posted by Judelexan View Post

There is a version of the Swiftech hub with molex, I have one.

And Doyll, I read through about 30 motherboard manuals in the last week and several of them send a full +5V signal on the 4th line (not sure why):


You are correct about mine:
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But the newer boards have this:
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I could be reading that wrong I admit.
Reserve obviously means it is doing nothing.

5v is just 5v., not PWM signal. What the purpose of the 5v on pin-4 would be used for I have no idea. I've see it before so it's not new.
post #27 of 43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Do you want to limit your cooling to a $35.00 cooler? The bigger / better the cooler is, the quieter it will cool your CPU .. because more cooling ability means cooler does not need as much air / fan speed. wink.gif

I just chose the 212 Evo because it was recommended to me. I don't know much about this stuff.

Any particular model you would recommend?
With such a nice case and all, I would go with one of the best coolers. I consider them an investment to use for many many years.. I've changed cases 3 times but am still using the Thermalright Ultra 120A I got in 2007 and Cogage Arrow I got in 2009. There is a link in my sig to cooler sizes and clearances. Just be careful you pick one that will clear your PCIe and RAM sockets if RAM is tall. Much depends on what you have available and what is on sale. I've see top tier cooler for under $50.00 (Gamerstorm Assassin) and TRUE Spirit 140 Power is less than £34.00 here. I've built a few Define R4 systems and used the CPU PWM signal to control the case fans. Two use both CPU and GPU PWM for case fan control. Info on how to do it is in links below.
post #28 of 43
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With such a nice case and all, I would go with one of the best coolers. I consider them an investment to use for many many years.. I've changed cases 3 times but am still using the Thermalright Ultra 120A I got in 2007 and Cogage Arrow I got in 2009. There is a link in my sig to cooler sizes and clearances. Just be careful you pick one that will clear your PCIe and RAM sockets if RAM is tall. Much depends on what you have available and what is on sale. I've see top tier cooler for under $50.00 (Gamerstorm Assassin) and TRUE Spirit 140 Power is less than £34.00 here. I've built a few Define R4 systems and used the CPU PWM signal to control the case fans. Two use both CPU and GPU PWM for case fan control. Info on how to do it is in links below.

Gotcha. I'll check out the links. Thanks.
post #29 of 43
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Originally Posted by clankfu View Post

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Gotcha. I'll check out the links. Thanks.
After you get a feel for how to setup your case's airflow and what coolers do what and their prices I'll gladly give you help. Just kinda hard to do when you don't have enough knowledge to ask educated questions. biggrin.gif .. and please don't take that wrong. There is just an offal lot to learn before making educated choices. I keep up with air cooling and coolers, but know very little about motherboards, CPUs, graphics cards, etc.
post #30 of 43
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

After you get a feel for how to setup your case's airflow and what coolers do what and their prices I'll gladly give you help. Just kinda hard to do when you don't have enough knowledge to ask educated questions. biggrin.gif .. and please don't take that wrong. There is just an offal lot to learn before making educated choices. I keep up with air cooling and coolers, but know very little about motherboards, CPUs, graphics cards, etc.

I probably will be taking you up on your offer. Really appreciate it.
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