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Originally Posted by NoodleGTS View Post

Not sure what Razer is using, but I have my Chroma keyboard on spectrum cycling and it's really smooth. No noticeable "steps" in the colors.

512 is a lot of colors though. It could look smooth with 512 colors I'm sure...

That is including different brightness levels
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post #82 of 242
My k70 is not smooth with transitions at all, that's for sure.
According to that thread and CalcProgrammers post... looks like they should be able to fix it. Hopefully the fix comes soon.
    
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post #83 of 242
I do love how Corsair is out of the office travelling the world 99.95% of the year.
Or is it they say that every time somebody finds something wrong with their product? Like a kid that runs away.
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I am here if anyone has any specific questions about the topic but I do want to reaffirm that this was NOT a hardware issue and a fix will be implemented in a future software update.

There has been a lot of good discussion about the hardware too in the thread but I also want to confirm our hardware has much more potential than stated by some of our users.

For those who didn't see our response, (post: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showpost.php?p=736511&postcount=101)

During development of the keyboard and prior to the release of the RGB keyboard, we came across an issue regarding the possible color combinations. In an effort to get the product out to our customers as committed, we made the tough decision to resolve the issue in a future software release as we believe our customers would enjoy the product as-is.

Here are the specifics that detail the issue:

Due to USB stack size and performance issues, we had to reduce MCU processing overhead in the best and quickest manner. The LED controller gives us greater than 8 bits of color depth but we use the 8 bits that give us what we believe to be the best color granularity. Our controller architecture provides for over 100 million color combinations out of which we select 16.8 million to display. We devised a color palette scheme to encode and compress the RGB color data and the data to select and control the “current sources” that drive the LED array. An unfortunate side effect is that it prevented us from utilizing the full color depth available from the LED controller.

We are in the process of making the necessary improvements so that we can send the uncompressed RGB data to the keyboard. Additionally, we are optimizing the data protocol and LED driver/display algorithms through the display control firmware to handle the uncompressed data, and to more efficiently program the “current sources” that drive the LED array. This should give our most “resourceful” customers an easy way to identify the data and be able to easily send standard RGB 8 bit values.

This enhancement had already been planned and will be implemented in a few weeks by the release of a software update, which will be announced and be made available to download here and at Corsair.com.

- Corsair Team
post #85 of 242
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Originally Posted by CorsairJames View Post

I am here if anyone has any specific questions about the topic but I do want to reaffirm that this was NOT a hardware issue and a fix will be implemented in a future software update.

There has been a lot of good discussion about the hardware too in the thread but I also want to confirm our hardware has much more potential than stated by some of our users.

For those who didn't see our response, (post: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showpost.php?p=736511&postcount=101)

During development of the keyboard and prior to the release of the RGB keyboard, we came across an issue regarding the possible color combinations. In an effort to get the product out to our customers as committed, we made the tough decision to resolve the issue in a future software release as we believe our customers would enjoy the product as-is.

Here are the specifics that detail the issue:

Due to USB stack size and performance issues, we had to reduce MCU processing overhead in the best and quickest manner. The LED controller gives us greater than 8 bits of color depth but we use the 8 bits that give us what we believe to be the best color granularity. Our controller architecture provides for over 100 million color combinations out of which we select 16.8 million to display. We devised a color palette scheme to encode and compress the RGB color data and the data to select and control the “current sources” that drive the LED array. An unfortunate side effect is that it prevented us from utilizing the full color depth available from the LED controller.

We are in the process of making the necessary improvements so that we can send the uncompressed RGB data to the keyboard. Additionally, we are optimizing the data protocol and LED driver/display algorithms through the display control firmware to handle the uncompressed data, and to more efficiently program the “current sources” that drive the LED array. This should give our most “resourceful” customers an easy way to identify the data and be able to easily send standard RGB 8 bit values.

This enhancement had already been planned and will be implemented in a few weeks by the release of a software update, which will be announced and be made available to download here and at Corsair.com.

- Corsair Team

Great to hear!
post #86 of 242
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Originally Posted by CorsairJames View Post

During development of the keyboard and prior to the release of the RGB keyboard, we came across an issue regarding the possible color combinations. In an effort to get the product out to our customers as committed, we made the tough decision to resolve the issue in a future software release as we believe our customers would enjoy the product as-is.

- Corsair Team


Called it.

I don't think it was that shady, but I would have rather had it advertised as requiring an update
post #87 of 242
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Originally Posted by Tsumi View Post

Doubtful that they can actually do anything, hardware limitations are difficult, if not impossible, to overcome.

I'm a little late to this party but, this is incorrect.

The firmware in and of itself could load a limited spectrum per those keys and then use that spectrum of color for that use, thus, only instancing the use of that color in and of itself, therefor, no hardware limitation is placed on the board, itself.

That's entirely possible and more than likely what Razer is doing as well.
post #88 of 242
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Originally Posted by CorsairJames View Post

I am here if anyone has any specific questions about the topic but I do want to reaffirm that this was NOT a hardware issue and a fix will be implemented in a future software update.

There has been a lot of good discussion about the hardware too in the thread but I also want to confirm our hardware has much more potential than stated by some of our users.

For those who didn't see our response,
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I get that software doesn't just magically happen, but as someone waiting on the update to buy a K70 RGB, is there any sort of timeframe/timetable we can use as a rough estimate?
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post #89 of 242
An time frame on a Gunmetal version? Else I'll be buying a K70 Vengeance instead. frown.gif

Edit: Apparently the gunmetal is no longer for sale anywhere. frown.gif
Edited by Zen00 - 10/21/14 at 12:30pm
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I get that software doesn't just magically happen, but as someone waiting on the update to buy a K70 RGB, is there any sort of timeframe/timetable we can use as a rough estimate?

Normally, the fix doesn't take very much time to implement. The holdup is always making sure it passes our Validations lab so nothing else is broken when the fix is implemented. Given that, we're looking at the fix being public (barring no extreme delays) sometime mid-November. Our goal is always to release when ready though so if can be validated quicker, it'll be out earlier.
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