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maybe they'll catch up with nehalem IPC... rolleyes.gif

Yep. There's a reason I'm still using Lynnfield...it's outdated as far as Intel is concerned, but in overall performance it's still doing just fine, and that's the level of performance anyone with an AMD rig is at anyway.
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Yep. There's a reason I'm still using Lynnfield...it's outdated as far as Intel is concerned, but in overall performance it's still doing just fine, and that's the level of performance anyone with an AMD rig is at anyway.

Careful there, the enthusiasts will jump out in arms with comments like that. Probably bludgeon you with "bottle necking". wink.gif

On a serious note, 2016 is a long time away...
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If they can and the thing can clock that's all I need to go back.

Agreed. Especially if it can clock higher (and faster) than Intel's i7.
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Everything they've made after the 939 socket has been playing catch up. Other than their APUs that are pretty neat, everything else they release has been mediocre in performance.

They keep saying "high end this" "high end that" "looking promising" "we're going to do cool things" and it's always getting people's hopes high and when it comes out it's just...meh..
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Everything they've made after the 939 socket has been playing catch up. Other than their APUs that are pretty neat, everything else they release has been mediocre in performance.

They keep saying "high end this" "high end that" "looking promising" "we're going to do cool things" and it's always getting people's hopes high and when it comes out it's just...meh..

Other than their APUs everything they release has been mediocre? I think you need to re-word that, because their APUs are almost as disappointing as their FX CPUs. Way overpriced for very poor performing CPUs with weak GPUs on die. I have a secondary 760k rig built and I seriously regret building it as I could have done a build with the unused Pentium G3528 I have lying around and got better performance for gaming/emulation at a cheaper price.
 
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Everything they've made after the 939 socket has been playing catch up. Other than their APUs that are pretty neat, everything else they release has been mediocre in performance.

They keep saying "high end this" "high end that" "looking promising" "we're going to do cool things" and it's always getting people's hopes high and when it comes out it's just...meh..

They certainly need to deliver on their promises before I get even remotely excited. thumb.gif
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Nice to see AMD trying to push back intel.
I wouldn't hold my breathe, Intel has the game on lock and until someone puts up a legitimate fight then we will be subject to the insane prices we have come to igknowledge as fair for the next decade. biggrin.gif
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lel good luck catching up to Intel tongue.gif But seriously I hope they really do although I doubt it
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maybe they'll catch up with nehalem IPC... rolleyes.gif
My i5 2300 runs at 2,8GHz and boosting to 3,1GHz gets 1.06 in Cinebench 11.5
The 7850k running at 3,8GHz and boosting to 4GHz gets a 1.03 in Cinebench 11.5.
The i7 920 runs at 2,66GHz and gets a 0.96 in Cinebench.

They will probably catch up with Nehalem and Sandy with excavator if the 30% gain at 15W claim it true.
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It would take a minor miracle for Amd to catch Intel. The current lead with Intel's R&D budget is practically insurmountable.

I think Amd will do well to produce an architecture that can compete with Intel on a value level. Right now their cpus and apus consume so much power that it's almost as much of a deterrent as the performance hit. If they can improve on both of those significantly, I'll be happy.
VIA has 1/4th of AMD's budget and still makes as good as Intel's low power processors. Their new APUs don't consume much power at all actually there are people with ULV procs at Uni that only get 3-4 hours of battery life on idle. While my Beema notebook is blazing they also have a larger battery that mine most of the time. (that is what they get for buying a cheap notebook while they could've gone with a cheap notebook that is actually decent)
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My FX and 7970s will have had a very long run by then. I really dont understand where all the hatred comes from. My computer is years old and I run BF4, Bioshock Infinte, Alien Isolation, SOM etc etc in eyefinity with settings cranked. not bad for a $220 cpu. I look forward to the next 2 years with this build until zen drops.
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