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Lately the only game I have been playing off and on is BF4 and I am wanting to find something else to play in between, but I have no idea what I want to try and I'm sure there are tons of games and series that I've never played that might be worth tracking down especially if some are now sold at a discount. I'll give some ideas of what I may like and hope some of you can recommend some titles for me.

1) I used to play a few of the Need for Speed series racing games, but havent in many years and was wondering if there are any good ones that are semi-recent or soon to be released to keep on eye on. As a side note, I've only ever played them with keyboard and mouse and am curious if the wheel and pedals is a huge difference and worth looking into dropping cash on a setup or if its not really worth it for a casual race game player.

2) I loved Oblivion and played a good amount of time in that game and liked how the world scales up and cleared fortresses etc will refill after a few days to make it in a sense a never ending game if you wanted. The funny thing is that I played a lot of the story lines in game, but never touched the main quest. I always put it off for later and just never touched it I guess, but I bring it up because there was still enough content to make me really enjoy the game without even playing the main story. Now after the semi-long intro, I ended up buying Skyrim when it was on sale a few months back and played maybe 20 minutes of it, but haven't returned yet. I'm not sure why I haven't tried to get into it since I loved Oblivion, maybe because it seems so different in the sense of time period and addition of dragons etc, but is it a title that I should revisit for sure and put some time into it to see if I will get a large amount of enjoyment like I did with Oblivion?
Are there other heavily involved games along the lines of Oblivion that would be worth looking into as well/instead?

3) I tried the original Assassins Creed and found it insanely repetitive and gave up after like the third town, so unless the newer ones have made drastic changes I don't think that series or repetitive titles like that are for me.

4) I played Rift for quite awhile but the game changed to the point I lost interest and didnt like the direction they were taking it. It was my first real MMORPG and it was fun for the majority of the time I played it and I would consider a new one, but I think it would have to be something that I jump into during a fresh release and not a game thats been out for a long time and I try to play catchup or skip previous content. I glanced at Wildstar and immediately hated the graphics and style of game so I passed on that one, are any other MMOs set to release anytime soon that are worth checking?

5) I used to play a few of the Command and Conquer series when I was younger and had a great time with them and I have also played Civilization series turn based strategy and am wondering if any recent titles either from their franchise or similar ones are worth looking into.

6) Im sure there are a few other minor things i've missed, but thats a pretty good summary to be honest for me so as you can see there may be quite a few series that I've never touched and let me know if they are worth getting into. For some is it needed/worth to start from the beginning or just pick up a recent version for better eye candy while enjoying the involved gameplay?

Thanks for your opinions and recommendations.
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1) For a casual player that's still up to you. Having the wheel and all will give you better control over your playing skill, but it depends how much you want to get into it, casual or not. Grid and Dirt are pretty fun but racing isn't really my genre.

2) Look into Divinity: Original Sin, one of the best RPG's I've played since Baldur's Gate II. Different playing style as it's turn based and isometric though. Have you played Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Not as huge as Obivion or Skyrim by any means but it's a pretty awesome game, RPG elements, quests that matter etc.

3) nothing

4) nothing

5) My favorite "newer age" RTS games are Battle for Middle Earth II and Star Wars Empire at War.

6) Check out Payday 2, if you ever payed L4D, it's also a 4p coop but with bank heists and robbing stores biggrin.gif, if you like slow paced horror, check out Alien Isolation, The new Gauntlet game is pretty fun if you ever played the original arcade games.
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Thanks SpykeZ I will look into Grid and Dirt and see if one seems worth trying.
I have not played Deus Ex nor heard of it, and Divinity I recall seeing recommended somewhere else too so I will have to look into that one further.
Payday 2 sounds interesting and unique so I might need to try that style of game out as well.
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1) Wheels make a huge difference. Even a controller makes a huge difference over mouse and keyboard, because with mouse and keyboard you have no throttle control, which means you're either flooring it or not accelerating at all. This isn't too drastic in most NFS games, but even then the added precision of wheel/pedal will be very welcome. For racing simulators, a mouse and keyboard will be 100% unusable for the aforementioned reasons. I'm unable to make recommendations though, since when it comes to racing games I only play racing simulators.

2) Gotta play The Elder Scrolls games with mods, they make it so much better. I can PM you some mod recommendations for them. I highly recommend Morrowind, Oblivion (playing it all), and Skyrim to almost every gamer. If you want similar scale games, look at Fallout 3 (same developer) and Fallout: New Vegas (similar, but much better RPG with fantastic writing since it's made by Obsidian).

6) It's usually best to start from the beginning, since it makes the most sense. For some series it doesn't matter as much, like The Elder Scrolls, since each one takes place in a different era. But for most franchises, the story of the first game ties into the others, and often times the sequels are worse. As for some games and series I recommend:

  • Mass Effect trilogy + all story DLC (basically one huge game split into three different parts)
  • Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition
  • Deus Ex and Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut (nobody liked Invisible War though). Surprised you never heard of it, Deus Ex is one of the most famous and loved (and innovative) PC games of all time.
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series
  • Neverwinter Nights 2 Complete
  • Divinity: Original Sin
  • Wasteland 2
  • Metro 2033 Redux and Metro: Last Light
  • S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series
  • Thief (the first two)
  • Dishonored GOTY edition
  • Underhell (free on ModDB)
  • The Walking Dead seasons 1 and 2
  • The Wolf Among Us
  • PAYDAY 2
  • No More Room in Hell (free on Steam)
  • Killing Floor (although the sequel comes out soon, keep an eye on it)
  • Rising Storm GOTY edition (like a much more tactical and authentic counterpart to BF1942)
  • Natural Selection 2 (by far the most strategic PvP shooter, the only one I even consider worthy of being called strategic)
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Thanks for your input Boredgunner,

I understand the pedal for throttle issues, the best I could do with a keyboard when needing to let off a bit was to tap the arrow key for partial power. Its still something I will look into more since I think I'd like to get back into a racing game or 2, but not sure I want to spend $200+ on gear for it. Maybe I can find something used.

If you dont mind taking a few minutes to clarify the difference for a true racing sim, I assume there are different types like basic Indy oval track and then autocross or F1 style circuits, but are they still on like a career where you do a season of races and try to do best overall or is it just hop into a setup game and run the laps till the end and start over for the next one? Are there any that have continous parts customization you need to save up cash for or any other changes besides dialing in and adjusting suspension, engine timings, etc? Just trying to see if its anything I'd consider getting into, I know i wouldnt want basic oval track style, but perhaps autocross type would interest me.


When you get some free time, I'd gladly look into your mod recommendations for Skyrim as it will probably help me get into the game initally and then ill be hooked like Oblivion did. I never did any mods to Oblivion though so I am unsure if its all graphics based modding or is there also game changing mods like the way things level or how NPCs interract/scale with you? I'd obviously be a fan of better graphics (unfortunately I'm on 2GB Vram atm), but I dont know how I would feel about changing the actual game from its designed playstyle (maybe a better option for a second time through). I know there are thousands of mods to go through and I think i'd rather just download a top list and get into the game rather than spend a ton of time enhancing every detail to the graphics.

Thanks for the long list of games to look into, looks like I have to narrow down my preferences to help shorten that list. Im unsure if I want to try a few shorter games (story) to change things up, or commit to a single longer game.
For now without getting into the list, I'll have to start my search with Deus Ex, DivinityOS, and Payday2 since they have been brought up twice already and then actually sit down with Skyrim since I already own it, which by the way I think I got it with an expansion or a GOTY edition or something beyond the original release so that will give me even more to tackle.
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Thanks for your input Boredgunner,

I understand the pedal for throttle issues, the best I could do with a keyboard when needing to let off a bit was to tap the arrow key for partial power. Its still something I will look into more since I think I'd like to get back into a racing game or 2, but not sure I want to spend $200+ on gear for it. Maybe I can find something used.

If you dont mind taking a few minutes to clarify the difference for a true racing sim, I assume there are different types like basic Indy oval track and then autocross or F1 style circuits, but are they still on like a career where you do a season of races and try to do best overall or is it just hop into a setup game and run the laps till the end and start over for the next one? Are there any that have continous parts customization you need to save up cash for or any other changes besides dialing in and adjusting suspension, engine timings, etc? Just trying to see if its anything I'd consider getting into, I know i wouldnt want basic oval track style, but perhaps autocross type would interest me.

If you stick to arcade racing games, you can just get an XBOX gamepad and be done with it. As for sim racers, I hate NASCAR too so I won't recommend games like that. The ones I play are Assetto Corsa and F1 2013. Both have career modes sort of like you described. In F1 2013's career mode, you begin by trying out for a team and depending on how well you do, you'll be requested to join several teams like Ferrari, Red Bull Racing, etc. After you join a team it plays out kind of like an actual F1 racing season. It also has free run.

I haven't gotten to Assetto Corsa's career mode yet, but it has different series for various classes types of cars. Kind of like Gran Turismo and Forza, it looks like, but I don't think it has a cash system. Racing sims like this lack in external customization; you won't be shopping for spoilers and body kits, but they provide the highest level of configuration over your suspension, gearbox, and all those things.
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When you get some free time, I'd gladly look into your mod recommendations for Skyrim as it will probably help me get into the game initally and then ill be hooked like Oblivion did. I never did any mods to Oblivion though so I am unsure if its all graphics based modding or is there also game changing mods like the way things level or how NPCs interract/scale with you? I'd obviously be a fan of better graphics (unfortunately I'm on 2GB Vram atm), but I dont know how I would feel about changing the actual game from its designed playstyle (maybe a better option for a second time through). I know there are thousands of mods to go through and I think i'd rather just download a top list and get into the game rather than spend a ton of time enhancing every detail to the graphics.

There are all kinds of mods for The Elder Scrolls games, many for graphics and many that adjust how NPCs interact with you, in addition to mods that affect the leveling system, overall balance of the game, add new equipment (armors and weapons), add new spells, add new locations, add new factions, add new quests, affect AI and ambient life in the world, etc. Everything. Check your inbox for my recommendations on mods for Oblivion and Skyrim.
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Thanks for the long list of games to look into, looks like I have to narrow down my preferences to help shorten that list. Im unsure if I want to try a few shorter games (story) to change things up, or commit to a single longer game.
For now without getting into the list, I'll have to start my search with Deus Ex, DivinityOS, and Payday2 since they have been brought up twice already and then actually sit down with Skyrim since I already own it, which by the way I think I got it with an expansion or a GOTY edition or something beyond the original release so that will give me even more to tackle.

Cool, those are good places to start. Skyrim is an endless game, loaded with a lot more content than Oblivion which says a lot. There are two big expansions for Skyrim (Dawnguard and Dragonborn), and one small one (Hearthfire). PAYDAY 2 is best played with friends, since it's an extremely tactical and strategic co-op game that really demands lots of planning and teamwork, especially on harder difficulties.

The original Deus Ex is from the year 2000, just so you know what you're getting into. You might want to use some mods for it, like Deus Ex: Revision. Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut is a re-release of the 2011 game of the same name. It's less of a shooter than the original, and more of an RPG and stealth game.
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I'll have to keep an eye out on special pricing for Xbox360 controllers with Black Friday/Cyber Monday coming up (I guess any PC games too) since my last console was an original Xbox so those controllers wont work it looks like. After a quick search it seems a wired controller is my best choice so I may even be able to find one for cheap on Ebay or something.

Apparently the original Payday is only $1.49 on steam at the moment and Payday 2 is $7.49. Is the original any decent to start there or would I be better just going with #2?
Also looks like a lot of DLC options, some free and some paid, with the paid ones also being on sale so if any particular heists were super good I'd maybe grab those too before the deal expires (I think it was 10/28).
Unfortunately I wont be able to do any co-ops so hopefully the game is still decent with AI, might just not be able to play on hardest.

Also now that I am at home I was able to see what all I have for Skyrim, it looks like I have Dawnguard, Hearthfire, Dragonborn, and the High Resolution Texture Pack installed. So all of the expansions are ready to go for me as well smile.gif and if I recall correctly, I got all that for like $12 or less! I will read through your linked mods this weekend since it seemed like a pretty intense list, but if you can comment quick even though its probably covered somewhere in that guide, Do I need to/should I remove the High Res Texture Pack if I am doing all those manual mods?

Thanks again and +rep for both of you.
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Payday 2 is so much better than the first, though at $1.49 I guess it can't hurt to get both. Payday 2 has some good paid DLC, most of them are equipment packs but some add new heists as well. The Big Bank Heist and Shadow Raid Heist are by far the biggest, best, and most strategic heists in the entire game.

You can keep the official texture pack for Skyrim, it changes very little so that's one you'll actually be able to run at 1440p with a 2GB GTX 670.

- EDIT: Forgot that Payday 2: The Shadow Raid Heist is free. Very kind of them.
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