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I think efficiency is quite a polarizing subject. It can only hold one crown.
Qualcomm reached peak efficiency in Nexus 7, imo. Future iterations such as tablet of Xperia Z 2 consumes 0.98 watts in reader mode. That indicates to me we have reached the ideal point and are once again displaced from efficiency as performance targets weigh in.

You misunderstand my point. OP asked about laptops, which are x86 and you recommend an Android ARM tablet.
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You misunderstand my point. OP asked about laptops, which are x86 and you recommend an Android ARM tablet.
I understood your point left front and center, Sir. The difference is, one is a project and the other is an actual product.
You know, they won't be much different, if at all any better. Roughly equivalent to Snapdragon 800 at 3DMark Ice Storm & 12" instead of 7" FullHD.


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I understood your point left front and center, Sir. The difference is, one is a project and the other is an actual product.
You know, they won't be much different, if at all any better. Roughly equivalent to Snapdragon 800 at 3DMark Ice Storm & 12" instead of 7" FullHD.


While SOC performance might be the same there is no way you can compare ARM/Android with x86 and especially now you can get x86 Intel tablets for cheap. They may not offer the same performance as ARM ones but hook a Bluetooth keyboard to an x86 tablet, install Office or LibreOffice and you have a fully functional laptop (e.g. Transformer Book).
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I found one today. Thanks to the AMD newsletter.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-touchsmart-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-fx-series-6gb-memory-750gb-hard-drive-natural-silver/8825037.p?id=1219371332671&skuId=8825037&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8825037&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!66713926186!g!!52698021559&kpid=8825037&k_clickid=56502882-e807-7028-3b8c-000026945866&kpid=8825037


FX-7500

750gb hard-drive
6gb ram

Not the specs I'd like to see as in most cases 6gb ram means 4gb add on stick and 2gb soldered on board. Hard drive meh, SSD please. Only 1366 x 768 resolution why no 1080p?

It's a start but that model has to many short comings for me.

Needs to have 256gb SSD, 1080p, FX-7500, 8gb Ram, No optical drive , under 1" thick. Sticker price between 500-700$
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I found one today. Thanks to the AMD newsletter.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-touchsmart-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-fx-series-6gb-memory-750gb-hard-drive-natural-silver/8825037.p?id=1219371332671&skuId=8825037&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8825037&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!66713926186!g!!52698021559&kpid=8825037&k_clickid=56502882-e807-7028-3b8c-000026945866&kpid=8825037


FX-7500

750gb hard-drive
6gb ram

Not the specs I'd like to see as in most cases 6gb ram means 4gb add on stick and 2gb soldered on board. Hard drive meh, SSD please. Only 1366 x 768 resolution why no 1080p?

It's a start but that model has to many short comings for me.

Needs to have 256gb SSD, 1080p, FX-7500, 8gb Ram, No optical drive , under 1" thick. Sticker price between 500-700$

You won't get all that for below $700. Maybe a laptop without that SSD... but it's still a stretch.
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Typically you dont get efficiency to have hi resolution and built in SSD

Usually its for the college student or similar that needs a longer lasting unit to take notes and what not.

While any OEM would love to include SSD's in every unit being obviously superior to platter drives, it raises the overall price tag and deters buyers when it can be easily installed yourself (most of the time not voiding warranties).

8GB is where I would draw the line though. I hate buying a unit then having leftover parts around since I had no use for them lol (RAM upgrade I mean)
    
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You won't get all that for below $700. Maybe a laptop without that SSD... but it's still a stretch.

SSD prices have fallen quite a bit lately. So its not much of a stretch. Remove the fancy touchscreen display, replace with ssd, and 8gb of ram instead of 2gb soldered on board. I know what you mean though. Give me a 1080p screen ,under 1" thick, 8gb of ram, and I will replace the hard drive myself with a SSD.
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Typically you dont get efficiency to have hi resolution and built in SSD

Usually its for the college student or similar that needs a longer lasting unit to take notes and what not.

While any OEM would love to include SSD's in every unit being obviously superior to platter drives, it raises the overall price tag and deters buyers when it can be easily installed yourself (most of the time not voiding warranties).

8GB is where I would draw the line though. I hate buying a unit then having leftover parts around since I had no use for them lol (RAM upgrade I mean)

This laptop only has 1 dim slot. It has 2gb of ram soldered on board and a 4gb add on stick. Its pretty common setup these days. It still runs in dual channel, but hampers and sort of ram upgrade. Its fine for the Intel laptops, but the AMD laptops need high speed memory for the graphics portion to perform the best it can. Its not really a problem but for the pro trying to get every once of performance they can its a rather large pitfall.


Hopefully some better options come into light, and I will replace my current A10-5757m laptop with one of the FX ones.
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You won't get all that for below $700. Maybe a laptop without that SSD... but it's still a stretch.

SSD prices have fallen quite a bit lately. So its not much of a stretch. Remove the fancy touchscreen display, replace with ssd, and 8gb of ram instead of 2gb soldered on board. I know what you mean though. Give me a 1080p screen ,under 1" thick, 8gb of ram, and I will replace the hard drive myself with a SSD.
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Typically you dont get efficiency to have hi resolution and built in SSD

Usually its for the college student or similar that needs a longer lasting unit to take notes and what not.

While any OEM would love to include SSD's in every unit being obviously superior to platter drives, it raises the overall price tag and deters buyers when it can be easily installed yourself (most of the time not voiding warranties).

8GB is where I would draw the line though. I hate buying a unit then having leftover parts around since I had no use for them lol (RAM upgrade I mean)

This laptop only has 1 dim slot. It has 2gb of ram soldered on board and a 4gb add on stick. Its pretty common setup these days. It still runs in dual channel, but hampers and sort of ram upgrade. Its fine for the Intel laptops, but the AMD laptops need high speed memory for the graphics portion to perform the best it can. Its not really a problem but for the pro trying to get every once of performance they can its a rather large pitfall.


Hopefully some better options come into light, and I will replace my current A10-5757m laptop with one of the FX ones.

Again, I think you're better off getting a haswell dualie + GM107 laptop now instead of waiting. It's faster, roughly the same price, still very power efficient, and you have more options to choose from.
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Great APU but close to nowhere to be found & isnt price competitive = it is reason why AMD have fall short in profit earning....
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Again, I think you're better off getting a haswell dualie + GM107 laptop now instead of waiting. It's faster, roughly the same price, still very power efficient, and you have more options to choose from.

why would i want a laptop with a discrete gpu? not only does it consume more power, but it makes the laptop heavier and thicker in most cases.

I am perfectly happy with my current laptop. I have no need for a replacement at this time, however being the tech person I am there is always room for improvement. It will play 95% of the games i own at 720p with decent settings and still have a 3 hour battery life (normally 6-8 hours under light load conditions). Discrete gpus give you the performance, but take away any sort of battery life.
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