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Intel essentially killed off its itanium product line through neglect. They've been pushing their customers towards their high end Xeons. The other thing is the high end xeons cost almost as much as itaniums these days anyway with similar performance.

Poulson didn't come out THAT long ago... and you can still buy HP Integrity servers brand new. smile.gif

But yeah, I'd go Xeon E7 all day long over an Itanium
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Intel effectively mothballed Itanium ages ago. The only reason it receives any refreshes is due to contractual obligations to HP.
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Intel essentially killed off its itanium product line through neglect.

I always saw it as more so that AMD killed off Itanium due to it's x86_64 instructions being "backwards compatible" so to speak with regular x86 so the integration of 64-bit was far easier than trying to move everything to a whole different proprietary line from Intel. Yes I do realize Itanium was server only, but moving to one server 64-bit and a different desktop 64-bit was not what many people (Microsoft included) wanted to do.
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I can't even imagine what POWER9 is going to be like.... Ever since the market moved away from Itanium, IBM has essentially ruled the mission-critical high end segment.

Just need to solve the power requirements and cost (due to size) :/ Would be crazy to see something as powerful as POWER9 in the x86 desktop space though. lol
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If there's anyone who can beat Intel, it's Big Blue.
Except Big Blue and Intel don't compete in the same space anymore (for the most part).

Intel destroyed IBM with commodity servers a decade ago. IBM has since sold off virtually all their consumer lines. They even sold off their x86 server division.

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I can't even imagine what POWER9 is going to be like.... Ever since the market moved away from Itanium, IBM has essentially ruled the mission-critical high end segment.

Itanium is still out there, but nowhere near the force it used to be.
The only long-term problem is that "mission-critical high end segment" that rely on primary/contingency systems model is becoming more niche. This market will always exist but current trend in servers is more into distributed and cloud software. It is often cheaper, more scalable, and more resilient to have hundreds of commodity servers versus a few big servers.

Then again, serving niche markets means higher margins.

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Intel essentially killed off its itanium product line through neglect. They've been pushing their customers towards their high end Xeons. The other thing is the high end xeons cost almost as much as itaniums these days anyway with similar performance.
Intel had no choice but to kill Itanium due to it's low uptake.

Just to note though..... Xeon E3 and E5 don't have the nearly the same number of reliability, availability and serviceability (RAS) features as Itaniums. The Xeon E7 do incorporate some of Itaniums RAS features though. My guess is that E7 will eventually have all the Itanium RAS features.
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post #15 of 34
This seems like good news for Global Foundries now TSMC will get some extra competition thumb.gif
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AMD + GlobalFoundries + IBM is a great trio partnership, can't wait to see them pull a rabbit out of the hat.
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From the rumors I heard while I visited IBM in NY, Global wanted the NY Fishkill fab, or maybe whatever IBM has in Albany, but they didn't want VT...so they wanted one out of the 3, so IBM is basically paying them to get out of owning the fabs.
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From the rumors I heard while I visited IBM in NY, Global wanted the NY Fishkill fab, or maybe whatever IBM has in Albany, but they didn't want VT...so they wanted one out of the 3, so IBM is basically paying them to get out of owning the fabs.

My uncle is a little sad about VT closing. He worked their for ages! I heard they are going to fire everyone there too. frown.gif My state sucks.
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post #19 of 34
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Here is the slide as promised.



Research & Development and Assembly facilities are retained. Just Manufacturing facilities is divested to GlobalFoundries.

GlobalFoundries is required to provide;
22-nm PD-SOI
14-nm SOI FinFETs
10-nm SOI FinFETs

For the next 10 years.
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The company has reached an agreement under which GLOBALFOUNDRIES will acquire IBM’s Microelectronics OEM semiconductor business and manufacturing operations. The transaction with GLOBALFOUNDRIES is expected to close in 2015. The results from continuing operations exclude the Microelectronics business, which is presented separately as discontinued operations.

Edited by Seronx - 10/20/14 at 1:49pm
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post #20 of 34

I'm waiting for IBM to announce the next technology in ;) processing after they totally divest the old fabs in a couple years. 

 

They do some serious R & D so nothing would surprise me.

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