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Yup, that's a lot of mods. Sadly it seems my dated PC can't keep up, but I've put in too much effort at this point to let it go that easily!

The problems I'm experiencing are:

1. long load times (3-5 minutes!)
2. very low FPS when first loading into the game world (5 FPS or less)
3. FPS improves after initial freeze, but still not playable because if I move the camera too much it locks up for a split second

I'm not really super well versed as to what those things mean about my hardware, but I imagine I'm being either RAM or CPU bottlenecked, since in theory my 770 should be okay. I'm mostly just using texture mods, maybe I just installed too many (the majority are 2048x2048); I do not have an ENB installed. If anyone has any idea about what I should be buying, I'd love the advice!

It's kind of funny in a way that a three year old game is forcing me to upgrade, haha. rolleyes.gif
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I think your right, it's probably CPU and RAM. Is your GTX770 2gb or 4gb? You are playing at 1080p?
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Yeah, the 955BE can start to become a bottle neck unless you start OC'ing to say 3.8 or 4ghz.
Also, if your specs in your signature are correct, why not get 8gb of 1600Mhz?

It could also be dirty files, using LOOT and tes5edit helped me a ton with performance and cleaning up master files. Right now the biggest fps killer for me is Just in time scripts for dynamic lighting in skyrim.
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I think cpu and ram are a major issue, but your VRAM is possible an issue too if your 770 is the 2GB card. I would pick up some more ram if you can and try overclocking you cpu and gpu then go from there.
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I think your right, it's probably CPU and RAM. Is your GTX770 2gb or 4gb? You are playing at 1080p?
It's a 2GB card, and I'm playing at 1080p.
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Yeah, the 955BE can start to become a bottle neck unless you start OC'ing to say 3.8 or 4ghz.
Also, if your specs in your signature are correct, why not get 8gb of 1600Mhz?

It could also be dirty files, using LOOT and tes5edit helped me a ton with performance and cleaning up master files. Right now the biggest fps killer for me is Just in time scripts for dynamic lighting in skyrim.
Ah about 3 years ago I tried OC'ing it and I nearly killed it, smelled like it was burning and all that fun stuff (can't remember what I did wrong, but it was a noob mistake). I'd love to OC it but I'd rather be careful since I wouldn't be surprised if I damaged it that last time.

They are correct, and cool, I'll do just that. Would this one be fine?

Yup, I ran LOOT and TES5Edit, everything's clean. thumb.gif
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I think cpu and ram are a major issue, but your VRAM is possible an issue too if your 770 is the 2GB card. I would pick up some more ram if you can and try overclocking you cpu and gpu then go from there.
Bummer, just bought that card a few months ago, would suck to have to upgrade that again so soon, haha. I guess I'll buy the RAM and overclock the GPU, then cross fingers and hope for the best.
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Definitely upgrade your CPU and RAM. Preferably an Intel Haswell build (ASRock or Gigabyte Z97, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 or faster, i5 4690k overclocked as much as possible), unless you can make the splash to Haswell-E. Your GPU should be fine seeing as how you're at 1080p.
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Are you using a enb and how many texture mods are you using?

For load times: an SSD will fix that; or if you have enough ram you could just load the game into the ram.
Your GPU should be fine but if you're running a ENB you might not have the horsepower for it, depends though. That's the lass thing on the list to cross off unless you went crazy with the texture mods and skyrim.ini tweaks.

The CPU is likely the culprit, if you dont want to spend insane $ on a CPU and still need a new one look into the fx 9370, its a good little chip that runs a tad bit hot, with a water cooler I have no issues getting it to 5.0 on the OC.
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Hm, alright, sounds like I need to do a bit of research before buying anything since I take it I need to upgrade everything, from what you guys are saying. I'll go haunt the Intel subforum, thanks!

(And nope, not using an ENB, just textures.)
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For load times: an SSD will fix that; or if you have enough ram you could just load the game into the ram.

Hmm, would loading the game into RAM impact performance (and would 8GB be sufficient to do so?). I don't really feel particularly inclined to buy an SSD, since I've never felt the need for one. This is really the only time I've ever had slow load times, so I imagine it probably isn't the HDD's fault?
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Hm, alright, sounds like I need to do a bit of research before buying anything since I take it I need to upgrade everything, from what you guys are saying. I'll go haunt the Intel subforum, thanks!

(And nope, not using an ENB, just textures.)
Hmm, would loading the game into RAM impact performance (and would 8GB be sufficient to do so?). I don't really feel particularly inclined to buy an SSD, since I've never felt the need for one. This is really the only time I've ever had slow load times, so I imagine it probably isn't the HDD's fault?

I don't think 8GB would be sufficient. An SSD probably would help, although I'm honestly surprised that it's loading slow for you. Even with a ton of mods, Skyrim has always loaded quite quickly for me on HDDs (though I haven't had it on an HDD in almost two years).
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I don't think 8GB would be sufficient. An SSD probably would help, although I'm honestly surprised that it's loading slow for you. Even with a ton of mods, Skyrim has always loaded quite quickly for me on HDDs (though I haven't had it on an HDD in almost two years).
Hmm, I guess when I'm back home I'll try booting it up with textures disabled and see if the load time / general performance improves. If not, I guess I might as well just build a new PC at this point, lol.
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