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Final Build Advice ~ $3000

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The PSU is way overkill unless you paln on having GTX 970 4 way SLI. you dont need more then a 650 watts PSU for 2 of them.
 
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The PSU is way overkill unless you paln on having GTX 970 4 way SLI. you dont need more then a 650 watts PSU for 2 of them.
This. I like the G2 750 watt personally.

And why 5930k? More cards down the road? Because you will still have enough lanes with the 5820k for 2 cards and you will save a decent amount of cash.
 
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If you cut down the power supply a bit, move "down" to the 5820k, and switch to an 840 evo maybe you could fit 2 980's in there instead? Just a thought.
 
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1) Don't buy a 5930K. Either buy a 5960X or a 5820K because it's just not worth the extra money for the PCIe lanes over the 5820k. A 5820k can support 3 way SLI without any real performance degradation. You only need that 40 PCIe lanes if you do 3 way SLI and a M.2 SSD. The 5960x because it's different enough from the 5820k with the extra cores, it deserves a mention.

2) You could probably go with a slightly less PSU something like an AX860. Personally I don't have a problem with PSU overkill. It just means it runs cooler and the fan spins slower.

2) Don't bother getting a 850 Pro. Get a 1TB 840 EVO and put that money towards a 5960x or a 3rd GPU.

EDIT: Return the CPU then
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Originally Posted by Syan48306 View Post

1) Don't buy a 5930K. Either buy a 5960X or a 5820K because it's just not worth the extra money for the PCIe lanes over the 5820k. A 5820k can support 3 way SLI without any real performance degradation. You only need that 40 PCIe lanes if you do 3 way SLI and a M.2 SSD. The 5960x because it's different enough from the 5820k with the extra cores, it deserves a mention.

2) You could probably go with a slightly less PSU something like an AX860. Personally I don't have a problem with PSU overkill. It just means it runs cooler and the fan spins slower.

2) Don't bother getting a 850 Pro. Get a 1TB 840 EVO and put that money towards a 5960x or a 3rd GPU.

EDIT: Return the CPU then
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thanks but regarding the cpu, i actually got it for 300$ so it was really worth it.. i'll prob change to an 840 but I want to keep the psu overkill lol
 
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Here is my build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b9NHnQ

I did a couple of things here.

First I will explain the hard drives.

I got rid of the 850 pro and went with a samsung m.2 drive for a boot drive and maybe a game or two. The M.2 drive is way faster than the 850 pro and should put a smile on your face.

For a big steam drive, I just went with an adata 512GB SSD. I have this drive myself, and it is an awesome drive for the price.

Lastly I added a 1TB hard drive for things like you downloads, music, and pictures folder.

I think this setup is going to maximize the performance of the system while at the same time bring down the cost.

Next up is the motherboard. This is pretty simple. The X99-a is just a stripped down deluxe. The deluxe simply has features that you do not need.

The last big change that I made was I swapped out the two GTX 970s for 980s. If you want to game at 4K now or in the future, then dual 980s are the way to go.

the last change I made was the case. This is just a personal recommendation. If you like the 760t, then feel free to use it.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QnpY23
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QnpY23/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $300.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($429.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($250.75 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($250.75 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($250.75 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($250.75 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: LEPA G Series 1600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($277.75 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2809.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-20 21:45 EDT-0400
 
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The PSU is way overkill unless you paln on having GTX 970 4 way SLI. you dont need more then a 650 watts PSU for 2 of them.
if you ever want to get dual 250watt GPUs in the future it could be helpful.
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if you get the evo 840 make sure you get the latest firmware.
 
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With sli, maybe consider using a blower style cooler for at least one of the two gpus.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sRQ2zy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sRQ2zy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $300.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($413.06 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: LEPA G Series 1600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($277.75 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2680.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-21 10:30 EDT-0400
 
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sRQ2zy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sRQ2zy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $300.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($413.06 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: LEPA G Series 1600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($277.75 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2680.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-21 10:30 EDT-0400
I'd also go this route.
 
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If you are in the State I would recommend wait a little, Micro Center or Frys usually have 5930k for about 350-400 during blackfriday season and you can add combo discount with motherboard too. BlackFriday usually one of the best time to shop for tech product. Saved me almost 1k last year compare to regular price.
 
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Haha some of these builds are crazy... I do like the QUAD crossfire build but tbh I think that's a bit too much power for me (Plus i think I want to stay with nvidia)

so I would either get a 980 right now, and then buy another 980 to sli later, or get 2 970 for sli ~ just my opinion now i might change it who knows
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Haha some of these builds are crazy... I do like the QUAD crossfire build but tbh I think that's a bit too much power for me (Plus i think I want to stay with nvidia)

so I would either get a 980 right now, and then buy another 980 to sli later, or get 2 970 for sli ~ just my opinion now i might change it who knows
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Aha there's a lot of options to be had with $3000
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I'd go with a single 980 then sli later if you can't fit the second card in the budget
 
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I hope you plan to water cool, or have a seriously large case with fans in every orifice. Stacking aftermarket cooler cards like that produce a lot of internal heat (especially the 290 and 390x) with just 2, much less 4. I can almost guarantee the top 3 cards will hit 94*C and start to throttle. It takes a very intricate and thought out fan solution to cool two of these cards when put together. Don't get me wrong, individually, these cards will top out at 65-70*C and perform great individually, but once stacked, they vent heat onto each other starting from the bottom up. I had to add 3 more fans directly on my 2 cards, and rig up my extra stock intel CPU cooler on the backplate of my top 290 to keep the temps below 90*C. I never thought I would be thankful to have a card run at 85ish*C (my bottom card doesn't go above 70*C). Plan on watercooling, or consider the added cost to watercool these cards once they are in crossfire 2-3-4way and just buy blower style 970's instead. They use less power and run cooler for slightly more performance, and would be cheaper than watercooling. 2 R9 290's are the most anyone can get away with in crossfire with aftermarket air applications.
 
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Originally Posted by Uraniumz View Post

I hope you plan to water cool, or have a seriously large case with fans in every orifice. Stacking aftermarket cooler cards like that produce a lot of internal heat (especially the 290 and 390x) with just 2, much less 4. I can almost guarantee the top 3 cards will hit 94*C and start to throttle. It takes a very intricate and thought out fan solution to cool two of these cards when put together. Don't get me wrong, individually, these cards will top out at 65-70*C and perform great individually, but once stacked, they vent heat onto each other starting from the bottom up. I had to add 3 more fans directly on my 2 cards, and rig up my extra stock intel CPU cooler on the backplate of my top 290 to keep the temps below 90*C. I never thought I would be thankful to have a card run at 85ish*C (my bottom card doesn't go above 70*C). Plan on watercooling, or consider the added cost to watercool these cards once they are in crossfire 2-3-4way and just buy blower style 970's instead. They use less power and run cooler for slightly more performance, and would be cheaper than watercooling. 2 R9 290's are the most anyone can get away with in crossfire with aftermarket air applications.
there arent 390x...

the 780 GTXs have the same heat as 2x 290
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, the 780 GTX are just 40w less

and they dont get 70c in CFX if the cooling on the cas eis the proper

3c 970 GTX costt 300usd more and just are 7% to 9% faster
 
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Sorry, typo.......I was referring to the 290 and 290x.

Yes, 780's and 290's have the same TDP. I wouldn't recommend either of them in more than 2 way Xfire or SLI air cooled applications (with an aftermarket style dual/triple fan, that vents into the case). I never said that you cant make 2 work just fine, but 4-way is no-way. Not unless you want you cards running at 94*C and throttling, causing performance dips.

Also correct, 970's would be more expensive. BUT, with that extra price not only do you get more performance, you get a card that can be bought with a blower style cooler, hence you could easily run 3 or 4-way SLI with no heat problems. Try that with any of the aftermarket cooled 290's and you will be sweating in your brand new computer room sauna
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Between the two low-end effective options of 4-way Xfire/SLI of:

1.)4-way Xfire 290's, which would need to be watercooled to run properly and,

2.)4-way SLI 970's, which would have a gain in performance off the bat, not require an expensive watercooling solution to run properly, and probably still have headroom to overclock,

I would choose the latter of the two. If it was my build personally, I would get 2 980's instead, and pick up a third when prices drop around Christmas for sales, and possibly when GM200 drops the new versions of the 780Ti and Titan Black. Better scaling, more room for cards later, less heat etc......Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that the GTX 970 is supported for 4-way SLI.
 
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Originally Posted by Uraniumz View Post

Sorry, typo.......I was referring to the 290 and 290x.

Yes, 780's and 290's have the same TDP. I wouldn't recommend either of them in more than 2 way Xfire or SLI air cooled applications (with an aftermarket style dual/triple fan, that vents into the case). I never said that you cant make 2 work just fine, but 4-way is no-way. Not unless you want you cards running at 94*C and throttling, causing performance dips.

Also correct, 970's would be more expensive. BUT, with that extra price not only do you get more performance, you get a card that can be bought with a blower style cooler, hence you could easily run 3 or 4-way SLI with no heat problems. Try that with any of the aftermarket cooled 290's and you will be sweating in your brand new computer room sauna
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Between the two low-end effective options of 4-way Xfire/SLI of:

1.)4-way Xfire 290's, which would need to be watercooled to run properly and,

2.)4-way SLI 970's, which would have a gain in performance off the bat, not require an expensive watercooling solution to run properly, and probably still have headroom to overclock,

I would choose the latter of the two. If it was my build personally, I would get 2 980's instead, and pick up a third when prices drop around Christmas for sales, and possibly when GM200 drops the new versions of the 780Ti and Titan Black. Better scaling, more room for cards later, less heat etc......Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that the GTX 970 is supported for 4-way SLI.
gm204 are midrange cards and this would make these cards cooler..plus Quad fire scales better than QUAD SLI on high res

the PCS+ IS ENOUGH to cool them. the watercooling is a need if he doesnt like 80C+ to 70C load in quad fire

2x 980 GTX costs as 4x 290 and it is quite slower

this would be my suggestion for 2560x1440
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qDTcyc
 
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The heat is the issue. Not the cooler. The PCS+ cooler will indeed cool the card....but when you have 4 cards dumping 1000w of heat into a case, the air will tend to warm up, and you cannot cool a card down to 65*C when the ambient temperature in the case is already saturated to the max by other cards. It would be possible if you had an unbelievable amount of unobstructed ventilation in the case, but even then....not to mention throwing in all the other components in there. How are you going to cool your CPU? That i7 will need to be heavily overclocked to not run into as much of a bottleneck, running 4 512bit cards. There is more heat there. Dual/Triple fan designs are not meant for 3/4way configs. I'm just trying to keep the OP from being dissapointed because he has all this awesome hardware, but no way to keep it cool.
 
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The heat is the issue. Not the cooler. The PCS+ cooler will indeed cool the card....but when you have 4 cards dumping 1000w of heat into a case, the air will tend to warm up, and you cannot cool a card down to 65*C when the ambient temperature in the case is already saturated to the max by other cards. It would be possible if you had an unbelievable amount of unobstructed ventilation in the case, but even then....not to mention throwing in all the other components in there. How are you going to cool your CPU? That i7 will need to be heavily overclocked to not run into as much of a bottleneck, running 4 512bit cards. There is more heat there. Dual/Triple fan designs are not meant for 3/4way configs. I'm just trying to keep the OP from being dissapointed because he has all this awesome hardware, but no way to keep it cool.
for some reason he prefers nvidia but there arent 970s in stock so he wants a single 980gtx .I dont the pricing of the 980 but as he doesnt want amd..then its a 980 or a 780ti

But really its better to get a cheap card and hold for pirate islands.the lack of stock is just another problrm
 
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