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So last Friday I did a simple update after the java cluster simply yaourt -Syua on the laptop and no X so I downgraded to get me through the weekend. Yesterday I did it again and again no X so I killed GDM, then killed Gnome, then -Rsc'd Gnome installed lightdm, then reverted to nvidia 304 and reinstalled X still no-go so because I'm not a little pissed I put Centos (my backup) on it. So today I yaourt -Syua on the desktop which is set up exactly the same to include the wallpaper (not that the wallpaper matters) and it's A-OK. What the F this is the third time this year that it's broken like this and it's getting kinda old. Now that I have a desktop and it's up and running it's not at important that my laptop works but c'mon.....
 
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No wonder it's better to use Arch w/out a login manager tonguesmiley.gif
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You Linux users have faaarr far more patience I could ever comprehend having. I tried Linux for a while but just got so fed up of having to constantly find work arounds for basically everything I gave up and went back to windoze. I still use light mobile versions of Linux for hard drive tools and recovery and virus removal etc though, so very handy!
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Being that I didn't come from Windows I can't go back nor will I ever move too. Having said that Arch is not a stability in minded distro it's to borrow a phrase a "shiny new Schit" distro.
 
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This has nothing to do with Linux, Linux as a kernel is fine. The problem is most distros suck, especially Arch. *energy shields activated*
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So last Friday I did a simple update after the java cluster simply yaourt -Syua on the laptop and no X so I downgraded to get me through the weekend. Yesterday I did it again and again no X so I killed GDM, then killed Gnome, then -Rsc'd Gnome installed lightdm, then reverted to nvidia 304 and reinstalled X still no-go so because I'm not a little pissed I put Centos (my backup) on it. So today I yaourt -Syua on the desktop which is set up exactly the same to include the wallpaper (not that the wallpaper matters) and it's A-OK. What the F this is the third time this year that it's broken like this and it's getting kinda old. Now that I have a desktop and it's up and running it's not at important that my laptop works but c'mon.....

It was quite clearly a problem with your graphics card drivers and Xorg - so of course your desktop would behave differently from your laptop.

Just out of interest, did you actually look at the logs?
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You Linux users have faaarr far more patience I could ever comprehend having. I tried Linux for a while but just got so fed up of having to constantly find work arounds for basically everything I gave up and went back to windoze.
Weirdly I find Windows requires far more patience:
  • Windows updates take a lifetime to run compared with Linuxes updates. And that's excluding the time wasted with multiple reboots in between; and the complete lack of versioning in Windows to begin with (why can't Windows just pull the latest binaries instead of making me install each and every sodding version between the currently installed and latest?!!). The ironic thing is, Windows updates aren't even less prone to braking than Linux updates are - which was the central basis for your point to begin with.
  • Everything is so bloody hard to find in Windows. Whether it's the horrid mess of a GUI hiding features in non-guessable stack of hidden windows, or the completely unparsable registry configs, or even just the directory hierarchy - you need to know where every last sodding thing is installed because you wont find the damn thing again if you forget. Linux doesn't require half as much mental mapping to use - if you lose something then just type use a superfast finder. Or if you're an uber nerd, type "whereis" or "which" in the command line.
  • And even with Microsoft's attempts at bringing power user features to Windows have been needlessly longwinded. Powershell and any command line applications are so pointlessly verbose - writing a simple shell script feels like your typing out War and Peace
  • Trying to find errors in Event viewer is like trying to get my 6 month old son to change his nappy without eating his own poo. I mean seriously Mircosoft, you've created a central database for all errors to be logged to (good idea) then created a GUI to manage it that's so impossible to quickly traverse that pretty much everyone just gives up and blindly reformats Windows instead.
  • And since we're talking about patience, the performance of Windows really does need mentioning. Linux runs circles around Windows; even before you've installed the necessary three thousand independent application updaters that run on start up, and your real time AV, just to keep your PC secure.

Windows is one of the most inflexible modern OS's these days - more so than OS X even (and that's saying something when Apple overtakes you in that department). And what's doubly annoying is that Windows isn't even cutting edge - it is by far the most backwards and out dated platform still in common use. So I'm constantly having to work around Windows' shortcomings and constantly having practice the patience of a saint while navigating the convoluted, backwards and, frankly, idiotic BS hoops that Windows constantly exercises.

It's an abomination. It's always been an abomination and it's getting even more ridiculous with each moronically named sequel. Windows was never any good when you compared it to the competition (baring Windows 2000, but aside BeOS (which few people knew that existed) there wasn't really any competition left by that point). However it doesn't matter how tragic your software is, if you manage to get it bundled on every new build then people will be forced to learn it's quirks before realising there's better stuff out there. It's like being married to a fat ugly pig with swine flu and never opening your curtains to realise you have hot Swedish twins living next door who are trained masseuses and part time underwear models. But I guess some people like bacon more than boobies. *shrugs*
Edited by Plan9 - 10/20/14 at 4:52pm
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I was liking Windows 7 until it just randomly self destructs, I thought those days were over. Even Arch will stay in tact if you do nothing to it.

Just last night my brother can't log into his win7 profile with the error "User profile service failed the logon User profile cannot be loaded". I asked him what has he done, and apparently nothing, no software install etc. How does that even happen? Easily fixed following this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEyxD6ZG-jI , but still how is that even acceptable.

I took one look at Windows 8 at the shops and couldn't understand what the interface designers were thinking, there is nothing sensible about it.
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Oh totally. And it makes me laugh at how ordinary it is for Windows users to skip a version because they don't like the look of Vista or 8. I mean you'd rightly ridicule me if I told you not to upgrade OpenBSD; to wait 6 years for the next iteration instead.

It's idiotic, yet for some reason Windows users have been trained into thinking it's acceptable for your OS to be this awkward and invasive.
post #10 of 53
As much as I love Linux, I get tired of its quirkiness, too. For my laptop, one example is shutdown times: sometimes it will shutdown before it can even get to the splash screen. Other times it will sit at the splash screen for 3 minutes before completely shutting down.

I put up with it because that computer can't run OSX, but yet it's still a much more usable OS than windows.
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It's like being married to a fat ugly pig with swine flu and never opening your curtains to realise you have hot Swedish twins living next door who are trained masseuses and part time underwear models. But I guess some people like bacon more than boobies. *shrugs*

There have never been better words to describe the mess called windows.
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