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I built a new server in Feb'14 for a school project. Now that the project is winding up I can repurpose the server for personal use. The server will be replacing an old HP ex495 MediaSmart Server. Its main purpose will be media streaming, data storage and file shares for the home network.

Specs:
  • Fractal Design Node 304 mITX Tower
  • Intel Core i3-4130 CPU
  • Asus H87I-PLUS mITX Motherboard
  • Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
  • Corsair CX430M Power Supply

I will likely purchase the following HDDs and configure them as follows (but I am open to alternative suggestions):
  • WD Blue 1TB 3.5" Hard Drive - OS
  • WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media

I am trying to decide between installing Windows Server 2012 R2 or Windows 8.1 Pro on the server. I have keys for both. Plex seems to be the #1 choice for media streaming so I was planning on installing that. What other software do you recommend? Do you have any monitoring software? What software do you use for OS backups?

Also, I was thinking of setting up a monthly file transfer to another server at my parent's house so critical data can be backed-up between the house holds. Those of you who have done something like this, how did you go about implementing it?

Finally, I have a Mediasonic ProBox 4 Bay 3.5" HDD Enclosure w/ USB2.0 that I could attach to the server for additional storage via USB file transfer, but I don't see the need for it at the moment. I am open to ideas smile.gif
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I am really jealous of your server.

As for operating systems, take a look at FreeNAS and Ubuntu as options. Freenas is the more complex of the two, but is has more server focused features. Its able to use Windows Backup service (assuming you have a version that allows network backing up) natively. It also has plugins for Plex, Sickbeard and Couch Potato so media wise you are set.

As for the hard drives, have you looked into WD Reds? they are specifically meant for NAS applications. Far as i know, they are as power efficient as Greens but dont spin down, so they dont drop out of RAID.
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If you have your data backed up regularly then the hard drivers you have now will be fine. Raidz1>raid5 though. I would get a IBM or another type of LSi raid card flash it to IT mode (setting the drives to just a bunch of disks aka jbod) and let the zfs file system manage a raid set. There are many advantages to using it.

You don't have yo use enterprise hardware for home media as long as you backup your data on a tegular basis. I backup up once a week and I'm fine with loosing a week of tv shows or whatever is new on my media raid set.
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I am really jealous of your server.

As for operating systems, take a look at FreeNAS and Ubuntu as options. Freenas is the more complex of the two, but is has more server focused features. Its able to use Windows Backup service (assuming you have a version that allows network backing up) natively. It also has plugins for Plex, Sickbeard and Couch Potato so media wise you are set.

As for the hard drives, have you looked into WD Reds? they are specifically meant for NAS applications. Far as i know, they are as power efficient as Greens but dont spin down, so they dont drop out of RAID.

I was not aware of the issue with Green's dropping out of RAID due to the slow start up times. I'll change my plan from purchasing Greens to buying Reds.
  • WD Blue 1TB 3.5" Hard Drive - OS
  • WD Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
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I was not aware of the issue with Green's dropping out of RAID due to the slow start up times. I'll change my plan from purchasing Greens to buying Reds.
  • WD Blue 1TB 3.5" Hard Drive - OS
  • WD Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media

the people that say they dont drop out of raids have no idea what they are talking about... the greens is a no go

as in an OS drive... you always try to get the smallest drive the OS will go on..
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I am really jealous of your server.

As for operating systems, take a look at FreeNAS and Ubuntu as options. Freenas is the more complex of the two, but is has more server focused features. Its able to use Windows Backup service (assuming you have a version that allows network backing up) natively. It also has plugins for Plex, Sickbeard and Couch Potato so media wise you are set.

As for the hard drives, have you looked into WD Reds? they are specifically meant for NAS applications. Far as i know, they are as power efficient as Greens but dont spin down, so they dont drop out of RAID.
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I was not aware of the issue with Green's dropping out of RAID due to the slow start up times. I'll change my plan from purchasing Greens to buying Reds.
  • WD Blue 1TB 3.5" Hard Drive - OS
  • WD Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID1 for Personal Data
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media
  • WD Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive - RAID5 for Media

Not due to slow start up times, they actually turn themselves off to save power when not in use. Which freaks the Raid out and normally breaks it. Better safe than sorry, especially since you are making a heck of a good server.

I agree with levontraut, the 1TB hard drive is pretty overkill. A 256 GB SSD for the OS and stuff should be plenty. My Plex server has a 60 gig SSD for a boot drive, and i dont feel any space constraints using Ubuntu.

EDIT: An SSD makes even more sense if you want to use the machine for windows in times of desperate need. Makes everything much faster, its amazing.
Edited by M3nta1 - 10/21/14 at 9:54am
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the people that say they dont drop out of raids have no idea what they are talking about... the greens is a no go

as in an OS drive... you always try to get the smallest drive the OS will go on..
Ya, I might shrink the OS drive, but what I am actually planning on doing is making a small partition for a Win8 install. That way I can use the machine as a regular desktop in a pinch when needed.

I could shrink the 1TB to 500GB or 750GB. What's the advantage to the smaller OS drive?
Edited by Spud387 - 10/21/14 at 9:56am
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Ya, I might shrink the OS drive, but what I am actually planning on doing is making a small partition for a Win8 install. That way I can use the machine as a regular desktop in a pinch when needed.

I could shrink the 1TB to 500GB or 750GB. What's the advantage to the smaller OS drive?

Saving Money!

To be honest, I'd buy a 120GB SSD (Should be more than enough to hold both server 2012 and win 8 and is 9 times faster than a regular HDD) thumb.gif
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Saving Money!

To be honest, I'd buy a 120GB SSD (Should be more than enough to hold both server 2012 and win 8 and is 9 times faster than a regular HDD) thumb.gif

Well the price difference between the 500GB Blue & the 1TB Blue is $8.... smile.gif

Also, an SSD is overkill for this server. Sure, 120GB would likely be enough, but I can put that additional $$ towards the fact I have to buy 5 other HDDs smile.gif
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Given our corporate experience with the WD Blue I would stay as far away as possible. We have had huge failure rates. For my OS (without going SSD) I would go with a WD Black, it's a bit more but well worth the difference.
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