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He does actually want to use the server like a desktop, at times. And with 6 hard drives packed into a 6 bay MATX case, swapping one hot, airflow depriving hard drive to a cooler, slimmer SSD is a smart choice as heat is already one of his concerns.

Admitedly, if this was a full on rackmount server case an SSD would make no difference, but in this case it is a good option.

My apologies, I missed the part where he said he was going to use this as a desktop as well.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by M3nta1 View Post

He does actually want to use the server like a desktop, at times. And with 6 hard drives packed into a 6 bay MATX case, swapping one hot, airflow depriving hard drive to a cooler, slimmer SSD is a smart choice as heat is already one of his concerns.

Admitedly, if this was a full on rackmount server case an SSD would make no difference, but in this case it is a good option.

My apologies, I missed the part where he said he was going to use this as a desktop as well.

No need to apologize, normally you advice would be 100% right. He mentioned wanting to use it as a desktop in the comments somewhere, easy to miss.
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post #23 of 26
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Wow lots of info in the past 24hr smile.gif
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So I don't mean to be rude, but can I ask why your current server needs replacing?
My HP ex495 Mediasmart server is getting very slow and not being very reliable anymore. I have the new hardware already, just re-purposing it.

I was thinking of using Server 2012 R2 because I have the key and figured it be nice to have it up and ready should I want to do research into windows features settings. I'll look more into FreeNAS. I read that when using ZFS with FreeNAS it is HIGHLY recommended to have ECC memory. I do not have ECC memory. I do however plan on restarting this once every couple weeks. Am I still ok to use ZFS?

Yes I plan on using this as a desktop... maybe a handful times a year. Its main goal and purpose is a server. The only concern when it comes to desktop capability is I want to have Win8 on a partition on one drive, that is all. Desktop snappiness is a VERY low priority.
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Secondly, don't run two RAIDs (media and data); just have them merged into one RAID. You will lose a lot of disk space when one RAID fills but the other is empty, and frankly it's easy to assign the same separation you're after from within the OS anyway (SMB* shares, ACLs, storage quota management, etc).

As for my personal software recommendations, I'd suggest throwing FreeNAS on and running your drives as ZFS (file system) with either raidz1 or raidz2 (ZFS RAID model) depending on whether you want 1 or 2 disk redundancy (ie how many disks can break concurrently before you lose your data). ZFS is, in my opinion, by far the best choice for any NAS or file server short of buying your own SAN. It supports snapshotting, live file system checks, and all sorts. More than I have time to mention right now smile.gif And ZFS is a bloody hard file system to break (and trust me; I've tried to break ZFS a number of times)...

My mindset for wanting the two raids might of been misguided. It was my understanding that drives in RADI1 may be accessible outside of Raid. Example: If my motherboard and its onboard RAID controller died, i could take one of the drives in the RAID1 array and put it in a secondary PC to recover the data. I was trying to prevent my motherboard being my single point of failure for my critical data that was going to go on the RAID1 array.

Any other ideas on how to prevent my motherboard being a single point of failure without needing to by an identical RAID controller to recover the data?

Thanks for all the info so far guys, been very helpful smile.gif
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My mindset for wanting the two raids might of been misguided. It was my understanding that drives in RADI1 may be accessible outside of Raid. Example: If my motherboard and its onboard RAID controller died, i could take one of the drives in the RAID1 array and put it in a secondary PC to recover the data. I was trying to prevent my motherboard being my single point of failure for my critical data that was going to go on the RAID1 array.

Any other ideas on how to prevent my motherboard being a single point of failure without needing to by an identical RAID controller to recover the data?

Thanks for all the info so far guys, been very helpful smile.gif

Software RAID would get around that issue, but software RAIDs also come with their own set of problems (aside ZFS - but if you're going with Windows then ZFS is out of scope too).

Thankfully RAID controllers don't die often though, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. However this might be one of those instances that your contingency plan is the backups.
post #25 of 26
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So here's another option. One I know many people will hate. What about Windows Storage spaces?

It will duplicate data between NFS formatted drives so they could be pulled and accessed in another PC without any need for RAID. Yes the performance is horrible, but we are talking about a home server, serving 2-5ppl. Are there any other downside to the poor performance? Also, while it is slow I am sure it could handle streaming data without issues.
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So here's another option. One I know many people will hate. What about Windows Storage spaces?

It will duplicate data between NFS formatted drives so they could be pulled and accessed in another PC without any need for RAID. Yes the performance is horrible, but we are talking about a home server, serving 2-5ppl. Are there any other downside to the poor performance? Also, while it is slow I am sure it could handle streaming data without issues.

Well you are right, most people will hate it. You have a big powerful server, i think you should use it to its fullest extent
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