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post #1 of 18
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Sup guys,
im submitting this for peer review to check and see if im making any mistakes, and to see where you guys would put a rig like this.
The final specs will differ a little, with 16gb of ram instead of 8 (i have an identical kit already installed in my system, which has a failing processor and a RAID0 array that is slowly going the way of wiping itself out), and possibly +1 240gb ssd or -2 of the HDDs, depending on how stuff works out.

Here she is: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/blackmagic12345/saved/RLy8TW
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post #2 of 18
WAY too many watts for your system first of all. I would not know personally how much you need, but my guess is that you chose a psu that is possible double the wattage you need.

I personally would recommend a samsung 840 evo 240 gb. It is cheaper and very reliable. But to each their own.



Just wondering why you need so much storage though o.O.
Edited by malzmidx - 10/20/14 at 11:43pm
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post #3 of 18
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i know its overwattage, but i do need a crapload of sata connectors on the PSU. Theres going to be a total of 18 SATA devices in the system, so the more connectors i have the better. I know its a crap reason, but yeah. Its a reason.

You are right when you say the 840evo is a better value. Im gonna go swap that out now.
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post #4 of 18
There may be alternatives. I'm not sure how many are recommended to one connector but here are some things that may help.
Splitter
Molex-sata
These were found just google searching.

These added onto an 850w (which normally has about 10 sata connectors-EVGA Supernova g2 850w) should be enough I believe.

*If someone can say whether or not it would be safe to put more than the normal amount of hd's on a single cord it would be greatly appreciated.


EDIT*
Concerning the EVGA 970, if you are getting the acx version make sure you get acx 2.0. Since there is supposedly poor contact with the cooling on the acx 1.0.
Edited by malzmidx - 10/20/14 at 11:56pm
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post #5 of 18
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its safest to use one per connector, although i very, very rarely use them unless i absolutely need to (say in a friends build where hes adding an extra HDD without having an available connector) and i never use more than one per rail. Long story short, i hate using them. Molex to sata adapters are something else. Those can be used relatively safely. Use them all the time, have one hooking my dvd drive to the PSU and another for one of my drives. Still would rather not use them, but i will if need be without worrying too much. As a matter of fact, im going to need 2 for that build. I'd still rather have an overpowered PSU that wastes cash/power than risk the rest of the hardware for the sake of a few dollars saved.


EDIT in reply to EDIT: Yeah im taking the reference cards. Not sure if i will have the budget for it, but i would like to liquid cool it sometime in the future. As a matter of fact, the only reason the d14 is on there is because i already have it, and its good. Real good.


another edit: i would need an 850w psu, which i have 2 kicking around, but again, sata connectors.
Edited by blackmagic12345 - 10/21/14 at 12:28am
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post #6 of 18
you dont need 1600w....850 is enough and why so many drives with a250gb ssd?
post #7 of 18
I'm a bit confused. I get from your post that your old machine has a RAID0. I see in your post title "24Tb". However you have selected 16 3Tb disks which in RAID0 is 48Tb (no redundancy -- it's a stripe set). Did you mean RAID1 (which is an exact copy mirror)??

And I'm with @PontiacGTX... 24Tb? or 48Tb?? That's alot, as in ALOT.

As much as I'd love that amount of storage spending almost $2k does seem a bit over-the-top. I see from the partpicker site at the bottom you've slated this build to be a gaming rig/media server/workstation hybrid. You sure you need that much storage??
Edited by falcon2099 - 10/21/14 at 9:50am
post #8 of 18
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Yeah. I've somehow managed to fill up 12tbs on my current rig, and with games being the size they are and owning a library of over 500 films I need the space. I'm also gonna be using it as somewhat of a local storage "server" (like a NAS but huger) for stuff like docs/pics.

Also, I want to know. Why is it that everyone raises a stink about the PSU? Im living in Quebec, where electricity is almost free (my whole 5 1/2 with TV/3 dual monitor rigs/fridge/stove/etc costs around 30$ every two months.) I am not worried about costs of running this machine, nor am I really concerned about the carbon footprint it would generate since Quebec is about 99% powered by hydro, with the other 1% being nuclear/solar/wind/off the grid. I also shop for features on a product rather than its maximum capabilities. I want to know, since last build I posted here turned into a "why are you using your tx850 that you have lying around from previous use instead of spending 75$ extra on a cx500?" thread.
Edited by blackmagic12345 - 10/21/14 at 10:42am
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post #9 of 18
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Yeah sorry I wasn't clear. The resulting storage space would end up being 24tb, with the disks in raid10. Current machine is raid0, which is the first and last time I make that mistake.
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post #10 of 18
It's good to see that you plan on using some redundancy as I would be a little concerned about the reliability of the drives you have chosen for important data. I would be curious about the possibility of buying about half the number of drives you had planned, upgraded to WD Reds, and adding more as you go. I don't know if this is possible or advisable for your RAID configuration but I estimate that the initial cost would be the same while offering a little better performance and reliability.

You might want to consider diversifying the hard drive models you use as a simple precaution. It's probably unnecessary in your case but I understand that it's one way to effectively reduce the impact of drive failures related to bad batches. Probabilities aside, there are some things that need not be left to chance.

I agree that attitudes towards certain PSU's may come off as rather extreme but I've learned to accept it as a necessary evil. Beyond the argument of wattage, it would seem that any given PSU is either branded as excellent or a ticking time bomb with scarcely anything in between. If you're not working with a budget where money saved on a PSU can be used on something else and your electricity bill isn't an issue, then all you have to worry about is the concern I just mentioned. I definitely support your decision to avoid excessive use of adapters because that would be rather precarious. I think you could even further eliminate a point of failure if you could find a non-modular power supply if that's not totally unfeasible.
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