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First thread here, but been a long time lurker of this forum. I'm a bit of a mouse whore like most of you are <3 tongue.gif

So….

I'm thinking of making my own custom sized Icemat as I love playing on glass. The only problem with it is the dimensions frown.gif when I used to use one I was constantly clipping past the edges. From what I've been told the best type of glass to use is toughened satin which is at least 6mm thick. I'm not sure what the best paint to use on the back would be though, if it even matters… Anyone have any ideas?

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Edited by QLsya - 10/21/14 at 8:03am
post #2 of 19
check this thread
http://www.overclock.net/t/1469572/vance-industries-frosted-grand-elite-mousepad-cutting-board-review/0_100
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Thanks for the link smile.gif I did come across that thread a while ago. There's a few potential problems with that chopping board:

1.It's still on the smallish side imo, should be a minimum of 45cm wide for me ideally.

2. The op described the surface as manticor like and stated that he has never tried an icemat. I've tried both, and I can confirm that the manticor doesn't feel anything like an icemat. The manticor has a very weird friction that makes it unusable for me vs the icemat which glides like butter. So I guess frosted glass is a no no, but at least its good to know that it works. It's interesting that it works without the painted back?

3. Even if it was fit for my purposes, I live in the UK and I don't think they'd be willing to ship internationally - especially considering it's glass.
Edited by QLsya - 10/22/14 at 2:18am
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Thanks for the link smile.gif I did come across that thread a while ago. There's a few potential problems with that chopping board:

1.It's still on the smallish side imo, should be a minimum of 45cm wide for me ideally.

2. The op described the surface as manticor like and stated that he has never tried an icemat. I've tried both, and I can confirm that the manticor doesn't feel anything like an icemat. The manticor has a very weird friction that makes it unusable for me vs the icemat which glides like butter. So I guess tempered glass is a no no, but at least its good to know that it works. It's interesting that it works without the painted back?

3. Even if it was fit for my purposes, I live in the UK and I don't think they'd be willing to ship internationally - especially considering it's glass.

I have another glass cutting board that's NOT frosted glass. Instead, it has large areas that are raised and therefore less surface comes in contact with the feet. This other "pad" is EXTREMELY fast.

Also, the rear of the frosted glass pad is not frosted and has a similar feel, with slightly more friction.

That company (Vance) also sells a non-frosted variant. I don't believe being "tempered" has anything to do with the surface (but rather keeping it in-tact if it broke.) Still obviously doesn't meet your size requirement, though.
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post #5 of 19
I have a Maxtill GPad I bought from Korea on eBay since I too was looking for a glass mouse pad. So far it's been really great. All my mice track on it really well and the glide is superb coming from a Goliathus. I haven't had any issues aside and looks like it just may last forever.

The GPad 2 isn't as large as you would like it to be (30cm wide is the larger variant) but at least you're getting something legitimate. I would suggest you check it out.
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I have another glass cutting board that's NOT frosted glass. Instead, it has large areas that are raised and therefore less surface comes in contact with the feet. This other "pad" is EXTREMELY fast.

Also, the rear of the frosted glass pad is not frosted and has a similar feel, with slightly more friction.

That company (Vance) also sells a non-frosted variant. I don't believe being "tempered" has anything to do with the surface (but rather keeping it in-tact if it broke.) Still obviously doesn't meet your size requirement, though.

Hi, I personally hate surfaces like the 9hd with lots of small raised areas, I much prefer smooth even surfaces - which the icemat is(and has amazing smooth glide as well). I'm not an expert on types of glass, but I think satin glass has a finer finish than frosted since it's chemically treated as against sandblasted(as frosted usually is). Not sure what type of glass the non frosted version you're refering to is? Yea, my mistake btw about the tempered glass, I think you're right it doesn't make any difference - it's actually what I intend to get anyways, toughened glass as I mentioned in my first post, which means the same thing as tempered.
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I have a Maxtill GPad I bought from Korea on eBay since I too was looking for a glass mouse pad. So far it's been really great. All my mice track on it really well and the glide is superb coming from a Goliathus. I haven't had any issues aside and looks like it just may last forever.

The GPad 2 isn't as large as you would like it to be (30cm wide is the larger variant) but at least you're getting something legitimate. I would suggest you check it out.

Thanks for the headsup, but I already own 3 icemats which are the same dimensions, I just really want a massive one biggrin.gif Glass ftw =)
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Thanks for the headsup, but I already own 3 icemats which are the same dimensions, I just really want a massive one biggrin.gif Glass ftw =)

Glad you stocked up. If you find anything else be sure to post. Glass is king!
post #8 of 19
hey - I made a post about this earlier a few weeks ago, or months, or something, life too stressful these days to remember.
anyway

what I came up with as the only really good solution is getting a custom cut and sanded glass piece, frosted/tempered glass, then a big sticker to put on the backside of the pad, and get your own little silicone feet or whatever material you want to use.
just make sure your glassmaker has good smooth frosting and not some weird patterny stuff. tongue.gif

if it's good, it'll feel very close to an Icemat, the very same low friction but with a hint of control.

cost would be about $60-80 total, which I think is fair considering you're getting something custom cut - but making time seems to be a few weeks if I understood it correctly.



http://sheetglass.net/08g-pad/ultra/
this one is ~100 bucks or something and is only about 38.5cm wide (due to the edges being a bit weird), but is made for gaming at least.
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hey - I made a post about this earlier a few weeks ago, or months, or something, life too stressful these days to remember.
anyway

what I came up with as the only really good solution is getting a custom cut and sanded glass piece, frosted/tempered glass, then a big sticker to put on the backside of the pad, and get your own little silicone feet or whatever material you want to use.
just make sure your glassmaker has good smooth frosting and not some weird patterny stuff. tongue.gif

if it's good, it'll feel very close to an Icemat, the very same low friction but with a hint of control.

cost would be about $60-80 total, which I think is fair considering you're getting something custom cut - but making time seems to be a few weeks if I understood it correctly.



http://sheetglass.net/08g-pad/ultra/
this one is ~100 bucks or something and is only about 38.5cm wide (due to the edges being a bit weird), but is made for gaming at least.

I plan to get my local glasswork shop to cut a piece of glass for me, what I'm going to ask for is toughened satin @ 50 x 40 cm + 5/6mm thickness - not sure what thickness is optimum? Satin is good because it's chemically etched vs sandblasting, so it should be more icemat like than frosted(usually sandblasted). I live in the UK, and I expect the total cost to be the same as your estimate. The actual cost of the glass is cheap, it's the delivery that adds a lot since it's so fragile and can't go out in normal post. For the back i'll probably use window tint, can get some at 100 percent and just apply it to the back. Sensors that work on Icemat's should work on the sheet even without the backing, like the one Scharfschutzen uses by vance which is transparent frosted, the backing is just for precaution I think - or maybe a requirement for satin since it's more transparent than frosted, I don't know but i'll find out biggrin.gif

Those g-pads look interesting, I found a few posts on ESR saying they were really good but saw a post or two saying that they have much more friction than the icemat. Navigating sites in Japenese isn't fun, especially when google translate doesn't want to work for me lmao. Can you still order them?
Edited by QLsya - 10/23/14 at 3:01am
post #10 of 19
I too saw the ESR posts and initially was hesitant. I realized though I never tried glass and gave it a shot nonetheless. Maxtill GPad glides better than my Goliathus Speed. It's low friction too - overall on the speedier side of things.
My complaint is not having the money to buy more than one to stock up.

You can purchase them via eBay. I got mine in about ten days.
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