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Sigh. I said locked cause that's what's in the same price bracket as the A6 after price drops.

The G3528 is generally pricier, including more than this A6 after price drops. And if we are considering either chip, obviously we're skimped on money or just not building a $$$ rig, and for the lightest of gaming, the A6 would win due to not needing a discreet GPU.

If aloud some price leeway I'd grab an i3 or FX 6300, cause honestly both chips(pentium and A6) suck.

(and you can build a cheap, casual pc for yourself or a friend as a non-casual, no?)

The Pentium G3258 is actually one of the cheaper Pentium chips. It also definitely doesn't suck. For it's price point it's pretty much unbeatable. I agree with you that the other Pentium chips are garbage, but the Anniversary chip is quite a nice little chip for it's price. The chip does really well when you clock it up in MMOs, older DX9 games, and emulators.
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The Pentium G3258 is actually one of the cheaper Pentium chips. It also definitely doesn't suck. For it's price point it's pretty much unbeatable. I agree with you that the other Pentium chips are garbage, but the Anniversary chip is quite a nice little chip for it's price.

The point is that for the price, it's not at all gaming ready without a discreet card, and the A6 s so for someone like me when looking at an ultra cheap machine for light gaming, it loses in that regard. That's all I was trying to say. If I was building an actual legit machine, I wouldn't use a dual core, even if it is unlocked.

But yeah, for the price, it is a nice little chip, I agree. That + 750 Ti or R7 260x and you have a great little gaming machine for the price biggrin.gif
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You could get a G3258 and an R7 260x for $10 more than a 7850K.

That... That can't be right. There's no way that's right. wth.gif

Wow, okay. Maybe you're on to something. Newegg shows $70 for the Pentium and $90 after rebate for a 1GB 7790 260X. That's $17 more than the new MSRP for something like 50-100% better GPU performance.
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The point is that for the price, it's not at all gaming ready without a discreet card, and the A6 s so for someone like me when looking at an ultra cheap machine for light gaming, it loses in that regard. That's all I was trying to say. If I was building an actual legit machine, I wouldn't use a dual core, even if it is unlocked.

But yeah, for the price, it is a nice little chip, I agree. That + 750 Ti or R7 260x and you have a great little gaming machine for the price biggrin.gif

In some respects you are correct, however the A6 isn't really game ready out of the box either. Both struggle to run games where you need the GPU horsepower (higher resolutions and settings) and the Pentium will actually win out when you are CPU intensive (low resolution low settings) in the older DX9 games that only use two cores. You also really need more expensive RAM to use the APUs to their fullest. Also I can't understate just how good the Pentium is at emulators. That's a huge bonus over the A series APUs and doesn't even need discrete graphics.
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That... That can't be right. There's no way that's right. wth.gif

Wow, okay. Maybe you're on to something. Newegg shows $70 for the Pentium and $90 after rebate for a 1GB 7790 260X. That's $17 more than the new MSRP for something like 50-100% better GPU performance.

You also get two sweet games when you pick up that bundle. Definitely something that would sway a person.
 
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That... That can't be right. There's no way that's right. wth.gif

Wow, okay. Maybe you're on to something. Newegg shows $70 for the Pentium and $90 after rebate for a 1GB 7790 260X. That's $17 more than the new MSRP for something like 50-100% better GPU performance.

Yeah i went a little overboard on my rounding. PCPartPicker has the G3258 + R7 260X combination at $157.99 after rebates. Thats $15 more for a hell of a lot more GPU performance and negligible loss of performance in multi-threaded apps.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WrGH8d
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In some respects you are correct, however the A6 isn't really game ready out of the box either. Both struggle to run games where you need the GPU horsepower (higher resolutions and settings) and the Pentium will actually win out when you are CPU intensive (low resolution low settings) in the older DX9 games that only use two cores. You also really need more expensive RAM to use the APUs to their fullest. Also I can't understate just how good the Pentium is at emulators. That's a huge bonus over the A series APUs and doesn't even need discrete graphics.

Oh for emulation definitely, Haswell is king in that department, my laptop wrecks my desktop in Dolphin, and that's a mobile i7 vs a heavily overclocked vishera octo-core. I play mostly CSGO and Gmod, so the A6 would be the better choice for me between the two. Both can play the Brutal Doom mod though, so that's a + for both sides biggrin.gif
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Well, for just web browsing, text editing, videos, and maybe mine craft(basically an office pc) I rather more gpu grunt in trade for the slightly less cpu grunt.
Its all subjective really.
All of these things can be done with ease with pentium or even celeron. Heck, even the cheapest celeron can do 4K video, while nothing from AMD can do that in hardware biggrin.gif
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Even the g3258? I wouldn't. I suppose that would come down to your usage/idea of "standard use." Certainly the graphics portion is better on the A6. But the HD graphics is good enough for standard use.
Hell, you could easily game on that aswell. Not newer titles, but some older ones at lower settings are prefectly playable.
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The Pentium G3258 is actually one of the cheaper Pentium chips. It also definitely doesn't suck. For it's price point it's pretty much unbeatable. I agree with you that the other Pentium chips are garbage, but the Anniversary chip is quite a nice little chip for it's price. The chip does really well when you clock it up in MMOs, older DX9 games, and emulators.
They are not. They are prefectly capable chips for what they were designed for. And priced very well aswell. Nothing from amd can beat that single core performance.
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Yeah i went a little overboard on my rounding. PCPartPicker has the G3258 + R7 260X combination at $157.99 after rebates. Thats $15 more for a hell of a lot more GPU performance and negligible loss of performance in multi-threaded apps.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WrGH8d
this this and 100 times this.
I really dont understand why would anyone buy this a10 for budget gaming. Its just a waste of money, because you can get a much better dedicated combo for just a bit more (and not neceserly, if you cut on ram, since you can get away with the cheapest ram possible).

A10 chips are pretty pointless outside of special nieches. They are just not worth the money, because you can get a better combo with intel+dgpu and you can upgrade the hell out of it.
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