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Hi, all. My sister is looking for a machine mostly for school and casual (Sims)-esque gaming. I heard good things about the G3258 and figured I would try out Intel for this particular build.

Here is what I have so far; all honest critiques are appreciated.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 250 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: TBA
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($69.99)
Total: $488.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-21 14:13 EDT-0400

Considerations:
-I DO have a nearby MicroCenter.
-I'm looking for a microATX case that's easy to work with. Would prefer frontal USB 3.0.
-Will be overclocking the machine for her slightly; probably no higher than 4.0 Ghz.
-I'm thinking the R7 may still be overkill for her purposes. Downgrade to the 240, or leave as-is?
-She's a student, so I can pick up 8.1 Pro for Students for her for $69.99.
-450W seems like overkill for this build, but I'm unfamiliar with any quality PSUs under the 400W level. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance for your help! smile.gif
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There is a 360 watts version of the Seasonic G and there is also a 380 watts version of the Antec Earthwatts Green both of those are a little bit better then the CX430.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1874278

Keep 250 I would avoid ddr3 versions though
Edited by drnilly007 - 10/21/14 at 11:51am
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post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

There is a 360 watts version of the Seasonic G and there is also a 380 watts version of the Antec Earthwatts Green both of those are a little bit better then the CX430.

I would prefer something modular, especially if this is going to wind up being a mini-tower. I am the world's worst cable management guy. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by drnilly007 View Post

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1874278

Keep 250 I would avoid ddr3 versions though

No thanks. SSD over a HDD, especially a Caviar Blue, a $119.99 case for a system at this tier is silly, and the PSU is both more expensive and higher wattage than what I'd need.

Your suggestions are both appreciated, however. smile.gif
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post #5 of 16
this build is beter bet

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2NFLbv
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2NFLbv/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($100.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $503.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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post #6 of 16
I am having a thought here.

If you can get all this stuff from microcenter, then the little intel chip is not worth it. As sad and stupid as it is, microcenter does NOT have a bundle deal on the pentium chip.

The best deal microcenter has right now is the AMD 8320 and the asrock extreme 3 for 170.

Clearly 170 is a fair bit more than the 110 dollars that the intel chip and motherboard you chose.

However I notice that your build currently has an AMD 8120 AND you have an AM3+ mobo.

Do you think it is possible that if you got the AMD bundle, that you could pass down your chip and throw a few bucks at the cpu to help prorate the cost?

You could get a new upgraded chip for cheap, your sister would get a MUCH more powerful CPU, and it could work out in such a way where everyone wins.

Just a thought.

If nothing else, I suggest that you buy a AMD 7850K bundle instead and just skip the GPU. That AMD 250 is a joke.
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post #7 of 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

I am having a thought here.

If you can get all this stuff from microcenter, then the little intel chip is not worth it. As sad and stupid as it is, microcenter does NOT have a bundle deal on the pentium chip.

The best deal microcenter has right now is the AMD 8320 and the asrock extreme 3 for 170.

Clearly 170 is a fair bit more than the 110 dollars that the intel chip and motherboard you chose.

However I notice that your build currently has an AMD 8120 AND you have an AM3+ mobo.

Do you think it is possible that if you got the AMD bundle, that you could pass down your chip and throw a few bucks at the cpu to help prorate the cost?

You could get a new upgraded chip for cheap, your sister would get a MUCH more powerful CPU, and it could work out in such a way where everyone wins.

Just a thought.

If nothing else, I suggest that you buy a AMD 7850K bundle instead and just skip the GPU. That AMD 250 is a joke.

Honestly, a 7850k bundle with a good motherboard would be as much as the Pentium with a crummy motherboard, so now that you mention it, I think I might go with it instead. I'll update with an alternative build in a little bit.
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post #8 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by PiOfPie View Post

Honestly, a 7850k bundle with a good motherboard would be as much as the Pentium with a crummy motherboard, so now that you mention it, I think I might go with it instead. I'll update with an alternative build in a little bit.
the igp just has 512shaders nothing to run heavy stuff over 720/900
post #9 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

the igp just has 512shaders nothing to run heavy stuff over 720/900

Actually it can.

It can run sims 3 on fairly high settings at 1080p.

IDK about sims 4 though.

It sounds like even if she had a igpu, it would probably still be an upgrade.
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post #10 of 16
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Take 2. She had a bit more cash than I initially thought, so I pimped the PSU and case a bit. Seeing as how AMD cut prices today, I may wait a week or two to see if Microcenter further lowers the price of the combo.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.99) [MICROCENTER COMBO]
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($34.99) [MICROCENTER COMBO]
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Silverstone PS07B MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($69.99)
Total: $582.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

the igp just has 512shaders nothing to run heavy stuff over 720/900
That's fine; pretty much all she plays is Sims 2, which has been running on medium settings on a 1280x768 screen for years. biggrin.gif
Edited by PiOfPie - 10/21/14 at 10:33pm
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AMD FX-8120 Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX MSI Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8G G. Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 
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