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From what I remember at college, an iPad would have suited that perfectly as well, unless you are using it for stuff like programming which is NOT normal laptop usage for most people. You can take notes with Pages, make spreadsheets with Numbers, design presentations with Keynote. Unless you are trying to connect to online services not compatible with a mobile browser or using stuff like Matlab, I honestly can't see how it cannot replace a laptop for most people, UNLESS a laptop is their only computer. Most people I know however, have both a desktop and a laptop.

I can but i need more screen space to open pdfs and web at same time. Even my 27" 1440p is not enough at home so i have to use it alongside the iPad + Books.
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I can but i need more screen space to open pdfs and web at same time. Even my 27" 1440p is not enough at home so i have to use it alongside the iPad + Books.

IMO that makes you NOT a normal laptop user. biggrin.gif
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IMO that makes you NOT a normal laptop user. biggrin.gif

Most student just buy a Macbook Pro these days. There is still a long way for people to just have a Tablet. Main reason is that most people/students dont have PC at home so they have the laptop for everything.
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Most student just buy a Macbook Pro these days. There is still a long way for people to just have a Tablet. Main reason is that most people/students dont have PC at home so they have the laptop for everything.

If they do not have a desktop at home then I would agree that no tablet properly replaces a laptop being used as a primary computer or only available computer. That said, most people I know outside of college typically have a home computer nowadays. In college, I did have a desktop in my dorm room and later apartment. My iPad would have totally replaced that piece of crap Dell Inspirion I used back then. tongue.gif
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I agree. I wonder if this new processor can compare to the bay trail in my year old Toshiba encore yet?
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Found iPad Air 2 on glbenchmark: link
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50% faster in what way? On paper? Sure on paper it's faster. Is anybody going to notice that much of a difference? No. Hardly a change.
How does that differ from any other device that's pushing more CPU performance? Ultimately it scored nearly twice the score of the Air in Geekbench 3. It has improved IPC, higher clock speed and an additional core.
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Found iPad Air 2 on glbenchmark: link
How does that differ from any other device that's pushing more CPU performance? Ultimately it scored nearly twice the score of the Air in Geekbench 3. It has improved IPC, higher clock speed and an additional core.

No IPC and Clock Speed improvements. Its just the extra core. Apple can talk all they want but the cores in A7 are very similar to A8 in terms of speed because they are same architecture based on A53. Thing is once Android has these core in Quad form we will see 5-6K scores.
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No IPC and Clock Speed improvements. Its just the extra core. Apple can talk all they want but the cores in A7 are very similar to A8 in terms of speed because they are same architecture based on A53. Thing is once Android has these core in Quad form we will see 5-6K scores.
Erm? The single core score is up 400 points, despite a very mild 100MHz increase in clock speed. Enhanced Cyclone is at least a little improved over Cyclone.

Sure but can those droids run four cores at their stated clock speed without throttling massively? And the same question to the Air 2-- will it be able to run those three cores at 1.5GHz?

EDIT: Apple designs their own CPUs now -- I've never heard of it being based on the A53?
Edited by steelbom - 10/22/14 at 2:41pm
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So seems like the A8X CPU has the slightly slower single thread performance than K1 denver in the Nexus 9 but significantly higher multithread performance due to having 50% more cores (2 vs 3). However the core count difference is somewhat understandable considering that Apple has the node advantage with 20nm vs. 28nm.

A8X:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=ipad5

K1:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1014854

However K1 and nexus 9 should have considerably higher GPU performance to "balance out" that difference in multithreaded perf as the K1 denver has the exact same CPU as the A15 version of the chip:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/21/ipad-air-2-mini-3-review/


Apple still probably offers the best user experience and build quality for a tablet though. My family members have liked their ipads. But as far as SoCs go I would prefer more single thread + more GPU over an extra CPU core.
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Erm? The single core score is up 400 points, despite a very mild 100MHz increase in clock speed. Enhanced Cyclone is at least a little improved over Cyclone.

Sure but can those droids run four cores at their stated clock speed without throttling massively? And the same question to the Air 2-- will it be able to run those three cores at 1.5GHz?

EDIT: Apple designs their own CPUs now -- I've never heard of it being based on the A53?

The thing is we cant know for sure because it could just mean A8 can maintain higher clock longer then A7 to to thermals.

Also Apple does not really design CPU or the GPU unless they own PowerVR and ARM. Nvidia for example design their GPU but the CPU is based on ARM designs.
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