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I've been dying to upgrade but Intel hasn't released anything worthwhile for the past 4+ years (with the exception of the original Sandy Bridge).

What's the next BIG jump from Intel? I don't want a 5-7% increase.
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Just look for a decent Hex-core for your X58 board and you'll be fine.
    
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The problem is, games don't really use the extra cores, so I need something that will give me more IPC as well. When's the next big jump?

Is Broadwell/Skylake/Broadwell-E going to be the same 5-10% improvement crap?
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Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post

The problem is, games don't really use the extra cores, so I need something that will give me more IPC as well. When's the next big jump?

Is Broadwell/Skylake/Broadwell-E going to be the same 5-10% improvement crap?

Honestly, that's how I feel. Same 5-10% jumps between platforms don't entice me. I personally don't have any faith in the next gen Intel stuff either.

EDIT: Also, remember the 920 is Bloomfield/45nm and W3680 is Westmere-EP/32nm
    
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When DDR4 is widely availabe, widely acclaimed, and cheap. That's what I have in mind at least
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GPU first yo
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For gaming

The 920 is still a mighty CPU and will be good up to
one GTX 580 / 660ti / 670 / 7950 / 7970 / 270X
with some bnecking compared to an 4.5ghz 2600K.

So if you upgrade only yo GPU with any used one of theese
above you may be safe for the next 1-2 years and then get
a newer gen CPU..

You could also look for a 2nd hand 2600K and OC it to 4.5ghz
with HT and you will have no problems running a GTX 980.
This should give you even more headroom..depending on your
desired detail settings and extra graphic options in games
or thru the driver / nvidia inspector / and / or downsampling.


Look in my signature for the ivy / sandy / haswell comparison.
Edited by smex - 10/21/14 at 11:15pm
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by th3illusiveman View Post

GPU first yo

I sold my 780Ti back in August and I'm waiting for GM200. You didn't think I was gaming with this, did you? biggrin.gif
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post #9 of 20
Ok let's think this one over:

  • A D0 i7 will be about 4 - 4.5 GHz with an OC
  • A Sandy Bridge CPU will get you about 4.7 GHz - perhaps 5.1 GHz and is 10% faster than Sandy, so maybe 25% faster overall
  • An Ivy Bridge CPU will get you about 4.7-4.8 GHz (with delid) and is about 3-4% faster than Sandy - considering the slower clock, it's a non-upgrade save for PCI-E 3.0.
  • A Haswell CPU will get you 4.7-4.8 GHz (with delid) and is perhaps 8% faster than Ivy, although that is skewed. On some applications, it is as low as 4-5%, while others it can be 20-30% (especially those that take advantage of the new instruction sets, although at the cost of power consumption). Basically a ~5% improvement over Sandy Bridge overall.

Is it worth it? Maybe if you do something CPU intensive that takes advantage of the new instruction sets. Of course, then an E series CPU is probably well justified.

Otherwise, a 4.2 Ghz 920 to say a 4.8 GHz 4790 - you are looking at maybe 30% faster clock for clock and perhaps 10% more headroom. The answer is, only do this if you are bottlenecked in games and if you have other applications. For those who are on Sandy or later, we essentially have single digit improvements in 3.5 years save for the new instruction sets.

Let's say Skylake brings another 5-10%. In that case, it will be 35-40% faster than an i7. That still makes it a hard sell for pure gaming.

Here's the scary answer. The answer may be not for the foreseeable future - perhaps even never. Unless something replaces silicon, this seems to be as fast as CPUs are going to get.
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Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post

I sold my 780Ti back in August and I'm waiting for GM200. You didn't think I was gaming with this, did you? biggrin.gif

GPUs are still getting better each generation, although with Moore's Law ending at 28nm, that may be slowing down too. I'd estimate big Maxwell will be perhaps 30%-40% faster than a 780Ti, so 25-35% faster than a GTX 980.

Nvidia's pricing tactics haven't exactly endeared me either. Let's hope that "big Maxwell" will not be another $1,000 USD chip and that AMD has something good.
Edited by CrazyElf - 10/22/14 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post

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I've been dying to upgrade but Intel hasn't released anything worthwhile for the past 4+ years (with the exception of the original Sandy Bridge).

What's the next BIG jump from Intel? I don't want a 5-7% increase.
haswell E or skylake or something newer

maybe after amd release ZEN intel product will increase more than they were doing in performance
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