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Just seen on intel website 5820k memory support it DDR4-1333/1600/2133

So are you telling me that 1333 ddr4 exist they just wont sell it because it too cheap for them so they scam everyone with high clock ?


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http://ark.intel.com/products/82932/
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Just seen on intel website 5820k memory support it DDR4-1333/1600/2133

So are you telling me that 1333 ddr4 exist they just wont sell it because it too cheap for them so they scam everyone with high clock ?


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http://ark.intel.com/products/82932/

I think it will probably be for servers.

My guess would be that 1333mhz ram will be used in applications where speed does not matter as much as capacity and power efficiency.

So you might end up finding something like an 8GB 1333 mhz 1v ram dimm for cheap because the idea is that you are going to buy a crap load of dimms for a server farm or something.
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i run 1333 ddr3 and for me that more than enough for gaming... smile.gif


cpu bottleneck and gpu come first



We need cheap 1333 ddr4
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Besides.. there is a trend evolving when it comes
to new technologies that the more expenive products come
first, because the people are stupid ( i did it too ) and go crazy
about NEWER - FASTER - BETTER ..

So thats the magic behind this to pull even more money out of
the consumer purses whith this newer-better-faster attitude.

Then the cheaper stuff comes out to satisfy the hunger of theese
who won´t buy the expensive stuff fore sure, after playing with the
possible greed of the human nature.

Of course there are also factors like production cost, how many
hands are between the factory and the consumer and how a brand
is established in the consumers minds.

It hasn´t to be 100% the case here but this trend i tried to describe
is undeniable.

So far..

S.
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i run 1333 ddr3 and for me that more than enough for gaming... smile.gif


cpu bottleneck and gpu come first



We need cheap 1333 ddr4

Well even if ram companies started to throw out 1333mhz ram on the market tomorrow, then chances are that they would be failed binned ram, and they would probably still be more expensive than DDR3 ram.

IDK why so many people are companing about DDR4 prices.

A decent and cheap 8GB kit of DDR3 ram is about 70 bucks. You can pick up an 8GB DDR4 dimm for 100 bucks or an 8GB kit (2x4gb) for the same price.

Lets pretend for a moment that 1333mhz ram kits hit the market at 80 bucks. For an extra 20 bucks, you get a much faster stick of ram.

So you are correct that the PRICE would be cheaper, but the VALUE would be very low.
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Well even if ram companies started to throw out 1333mhz ram on the market tomorrow, then chances are that they would be failed binned ram, and they would probably still be more expensive than DDR3 ram.

IDK why so many people are companing about DDR4 prices.

A decent and cheap 8GB kit of DDR3 ram is about 70 bucks. You can pick up an 8GB DDR4 dimm for 100 bucks or an 8GB kit (2x4gb) for the same price.

Lets pretend for a moment that 1333mhz ram kits hit the market at 80 bucks. For an extra 20 bucks, you get a much faster stick of ram.

So you are correct that the PRICE would be cheaper, but the VALUE would be very low.


Idk in canada it 180$ for 16gb ddr3 1600 but 280$ for 2133 16gb ( heatsinked ram...
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16GB DDR3 1600:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/#Z=16384002,16384004&sort=a10&qq=1&s=301600

VS.

16GB DDR3 2133:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/#Z=16384002,16384004&sort=a10&qq=1&s=302133

$20 difference. Not even. Heck, lets make it fun, 16GB DDR3 2400:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/#Z=16384002,16384004&sort=a10&qq=1&s=302400

Same price. How about some 16GB DDR3 2666:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/#Z=16384002,16384004&sort=a10&qq=1&s=302666

Not even $20 over 2400.

I find is extremely hard to believe that if we have 2666 kits for $165 in the US that you can not find a single 2133 kit for under $250 in Canada. Your prices mirror ours pretty well most of the time if you disregard tax...

Aaaaand yup;
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226429

2x8GB DDR3 2133, $165. Even if that is in USD (probably not since it's .ca) and we add the $8 shipping, and we apply the 13% Ontario tax (assuming it isn't factored in, and Quebec's taxes either aren't much more or are less, it's weird), it comes out to $220. Ya, that isn't $280, and it's a Canadian retailer. And it's heatsinked.


@Tjj226 Angel is correct. Releasing half-speed RAM will not be half-price. It will likely reduce the cost by like 10-20% at the most.
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Still 100$ difference for marketing gimmick with 0 performance increase...
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Now you are just being ignorant. Please look up things before you claim that.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3WW1VC1325
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226429

$25 difference. And the difference, while minimal, is not zero.
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Still 100$ difference for marketing gimmick with 0 performance increase...

Games are not the only thing you can do on a computer. For content creators, it helps a lot because the read and write speeds are a good bit faster.

Plus, why do you care?

If you are just gaming, then stick to a basic i5 cpu with 8 gb of ddr3 ram.
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