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I havnt built a computer since 07-08 really although i have done some updating over the years. As you can see by my sig rig, its time to do it again. Some games i play are getting more difficult, and im having stability issues and no energy to figure out what component it is.

So. I will be doing a lot of shoping for used parts to get the best bang for buck. But im looking for some recommendations on Mother board, CPU, Ram, PSU, Graphics card, Sound card (anyone still use them)?

I plan on doing a new case, and going with solid state main drive. I play the new Call of Duty games, and anything new that comes, so it needs to be capeable graphics wise, but obviously not the best out there. I do plan to upgrade the main monitor to a 22 or 24" and still using the 17's for side monitors.

Thanks.
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Hey man, exciting! New build time!

I'd recommend looking around our marketplace, there are a some good deals to be found, especially in regards to CPUs, Mobos, and VGAs! Here is a 4770K, there's another one too but it's delidded so if you're OK with that it's priced a bit better. Also, there are some used R9 290s and R9 290Xs which are great cards, I love my 290s!!! There are a bunch of R9 280Xs which are great and a used GTX 770 which would be nice, as well as a few used GTX 780s. Those might be a bit overkill (who am I kidding, it's OCN!) but it is really nice to have all the GPU horsepower you could need.

I'd keep a lookout for a good used 4690K and mobo as well. If you have something like a Microcenter or a Fry's nearby it would be worth checking out their good sales when they have them! For a PSU, check out the Recommended PSU Thread which has a very comprehensive and up to date list of the best PSUs in each wattage class. A very great source for PSU info!

For SSDs, I've been recommending the Crucial MX100 series. Really great prices for the 256GB and 512GB models. The Samsung EVO are still great drives too and they can be had for good prices. I'd recommend buying bigger than you think you need if you can afford it, they tend to fill up faster than you expect, especially with a sizable Steam library!

For cases I've been recommending these cases, all really good cases. The FD Arc Midi R2 and the Thermaltake Core V51 are fantastic watercooling cases if you're ever interested in that. Even without watercooling they are great cases. The FD Define R4 is a wonderful case for low noise and I personally am a huge fan of the FD styling. For a good budget case it's hard to beat the Corsair 200R, you get a lot for a low price.

Soundcards aren't particularly necessary these days since motherboard sound quality is MUCH better than it used to be. With that said, if you've a nice pair of speakers or a really nice headset I think a soundcard is a must. I couldn't believe my ears when I installed my Asus DG and plugged in good headphones. It was a night and day difference, no kidding. And it only got better when I invested in a good Sennheiser headset. Check out the OCN Recommended Audio Products thread. Very, very informative thread that's kept up to date and they recommend a whole slew of audio devices arranged by budget. Really great read!

Good luck on the build man, let us know what you find! And please never hesitate to ask any questions, that's why we're here! thumb.gif
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Thanks, i was hopping for more guidence on what CPU/ MOBO/ Ram Models to look for. what is the 4770k? last i looked a couple year ago I7 was the way to go. But im sure thats old tech.
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Originally Posted by BURNS331 View Post

Thanks, i was hopping for more guidence on what CPU/ MOBO/ Ram Models to look for. what is the 4770k? last i looked a couple year ago I7 was the way to go. But im sure thats old tech.

The 4770K is the Intel Core i7 4770K so it's still the bomb. In all honesty the Core i5 4670K or the Core i5 4690K will work perfectly for you but you rarely find them for sale since people use them for years and years. My first recommendation would be to find out if there is an electronics store that carries either of those i5s and a good Z97 mobo that you could buy new on sale. If not that, then if your budget allows I'd just buy 'em new online. Buying a Core i7 used will still probably be more expensive than buying a Core i5 used but it's worth a look around.

Do you really just game or do you do any CPU intensive tasks like encoding or rendering video, Auto CAD or 3D rendering?
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Without indicating a budget, it's kinda hard to provide some good suggestions. I would, however base the system around the Core i7-4790k or 4770k 16Gb of RAM which is all you really need atm for any gaming system.

Other questions we will need answered:
1. Planning on going SLI or Xfire? (This will affect the PSU chosen)
2. Do you have any preferences for mobo manuf?? (Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock?)
3. GPU loyalty. Team nVidia or Team AMD? (This could affect the mobo choice as not all mobos support both SLI and Xfire)
4. Cooling - Air, Closed loop, or custom water cooling?

I would stay away from used parts to be perfectly honest (unless you get them from OCN members). You never know if that mobo you got from Johnny two towns over has had any issues or if he's overclocked it to the point of it being unstable. Unless you're going to buy from the OCN community I would recommend new. That way you can RMA should you need to.
Edited by falcon2099 - 10/22/14 at 5:31am
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I do some high deff video editing, but its not been to bad on my current setup, just slow at times.

I like Nvidia, and i will probably SLI in the future, I will run a second card to get 4 video outputs currently.
No mobo preferences.
I prefer air cooling because its cheap.

im hoping to spend around 1k total buying used parts.
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You dont need more then 650 to 750 watts for a system with 2 video cards so thats the area you are looking at, no need to buy 850 watts or more unless you are going to add more video cards.
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If you buy a Z87 motherboard you need to update the BIOS before the 4690K or 4790K CPU´s will work.
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