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Hallo, my mate wants a gaming PC instead of a next-gen console, I volunteered to help him get the parts and put it together, at the moment we're looking at:

The part I'm most uncertain about is the motherboard, I don't particularly trust Gigabyte but that particular model seems to be fairly decent value, anything about it unsuitable for running a 4690? My mate doesn't intend to overclock for a while yet if at all and can replace it with a more suitable model at a later date, it's important the budget stays under £515, and anyway of cutting it down without losing quality is helpful.

I haven't done anything like this in a wee while so I might have made a glaring error.

Intel i5 4690k £174.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/645547-intel-core-i5-4690k-3-5ghz-socket-1150-6mb-l3-cache-retail-boxed-bx80646i54690k
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Intel i5 4690 £159.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/629960-intel-core-i5-4690-3-50ghz-socket-1150-6mb-l3-cache-retail-boxed-bx80646i54690

MSi GTX 660 Twin Frozr, Second hand £100

Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 £61.23
http://www.ebuyer.com/642653-gigabyte-ga-z97p-d3-socket-1150-hdmi-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-ga-z97p-d3

2x Crucial 4GB CL9 1866MHz £69.96
http://www.ebuyer.com/311957-crucial-4gb-ddr3-1866mhz-ballistix-tactical-memory-module-cl9-9-9-9-27-1-5v-blt4g3d1869dt1tx0ceu

XFX Pro 550W Core Edition £44.99
http://www.awd-it.co.uk/xfx-pro-550w-core-edition-psu-power-supply-p1-550s-xxb9.html?gclid=CPKTzI-stMECFSbmwgodmn8ApA

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache £39.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/319639-seagate-1tb-barracuda-internal-hard-drive-oem-st1000dm003

Ex-Display Titanium 600 ATX Case £22.46
http://www.ebuyer.com/665233-exdisplay-titanium-600-atx-pc-gaming-case-ebr2-ebky4

Total Cost with 4690k= £513.62
Total Cost with 4690= £498.62

Thanks in advance for any help.
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post #2 of 36
If he's not planning on OC'ing, the the 4690 would be a better choice (4690k has an unlocked multiplier).

As for a motherboard, it's just about preference. None of the current vendors are amazingly better than others. I tend to use Asus boards myself.

I would very, very strongly suggest an SSD instead of an HDD. Can't stress that enough. It's a night and day difference.
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PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/czDv23
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/czDv23/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£208.77 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£90.77 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£63.57 @ PC World Business)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.38 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£51.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £494.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-22 17:41 BST+0100

+130GBP video card
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAPPHIRE-AMD-Graphics-Card-DDR5/dp/B00IRTXPBM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413996045&sr=8-1&keywords=r9+280
  
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post #4 of 36
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I would very, very strongly suggest an SSD instead of an HDD. Can't stress that enough. It's a night and day difference.
My friend is undecided on OC'ing so far, which is why both k and non k are there. As for the SSD I don't really see that it fits in his budget, considering he also needs to get mouse + keyboard (he can get a free educational copy of windows).
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/czDv23
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/czDv23/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£208.77 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£90.77 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£63.57 @ PC World Business)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.38 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£51.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £494.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-22 17:41 BST+0100

+130GBP video card
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAPPHIRE-AMD-Graphics-Card-DDR5/dp/B00IRTXPBM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413996045&sr=8-1&keywords=r9+280
this vidoe card is 30%+ better than that 660 non ti if you use tons of AA
  
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post #6 of 36
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this vidoe card is 30%+ better than that 660 non ti if you use tons of AA
You need a business account for PC world business I believe, also a lot of those charge shipping. That is however an excellent deal on the GPU.
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If he is just building a "kill your console" pc, I would go with amd.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/v2Pkbv

For the price of an i5, you can get an 8320 and a mobo.

I also added in a hybrid hard drive. This will give you a fair amount of extra read and write performance for an extra couple bucks.

Oh and I should also add that the video card I have in my cart is just a place holder for the GTX 660. It is pretty much the same price, so the build price is better reflected.
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If he is just building a "kill your console" pc, I would go with amd.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/v2Pkbv

For the price of an i5, you can get an 8320 and a mobo.

I also added in a hybrid hard drive. This will give you a fair amount of extra read and write performance for an extra couple bucks.

Oh and I should also add that the video card I have in my cart is just a place holder for the GTX 660. It is pretty much the same price, so the build price is better reflected.

That 8GB of SSD doesn't seem particularly useful, not enough for Windows, or any more than one average size game. I don't really understand the concept of adding £20 to the HD price when a 32GB SSD is £25 anyway. Does it function like cache or do some kind of trickery?
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That 8GB of SSD doesn't seem particularly useful, not enough for Windows, or any more than one average size game. I don't really understand the concept of adding £20 to the HD price when a 32GB SSD is £25 anyway. Does it function like cache or do some kind of trickery?

Yeup. It acts as a cache.

Here are some videos about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIp1jgKnv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBhf8rpobo
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post #10 of 36
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Yeup. It acts as a cache.

Here are some videos about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIp1jgKnv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBhf8rpobo
I'm not sure it's worth a £13 premium on win 8.1 considering that loads in around 20 seconds for me on a 1TB HDD anyway, however I seem to recall win 7 loading in somewhat slower and that's the free version of windows he can get, anyone know what win 7 is like with a HDD?
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