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The i5 4690 is only a couple hundred mhz faster and it costs 30 pounds more.

Another thing I want to point out is that I have burned through 5 different gigabyte boards. IDK what is going on, but they really seem to be tanking in terms of quality.

Thats why I have gone back to recommended asus or asrock boards.

I've had two Gigabyte boards break on me as well which is the main reason I'm asking for verification about the particular model.

With shipping it's a £20 difference.
Edited by LucidNonsenze - 10/22/14 at 11:23am
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I've had two Gigabyte boards break on me as well which is the main reason I'm asking for verification about the particular model.

With shipping it's a £20 difference.

Meh, fine.

I would go with the asus board I posted in my last build.

The next board up that I would recommend is the asrock extreme 3 z87, but unfortunately it is 20 bucks more.
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Meh, fine.

I would go with the asus board I posted in my last build.

The next board up that I would recommend is the asrock extreme 3 z87, but unfortunately it is 20 bucks more.

Isn't 4460 Devils Canyon? I remember hearing there can be issues using Z87 even with BIOS updates.
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Do not waste money on a Nvidia 660 for $100

Get a cheaper and faster 7950
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Isn't 4460 Devils Canyon? I remember hearing there can be issues using Z87 even with BIOS updates.

Not that I am aware of.

I am like 99% sure that intel did not release chips like these under the devil canyons mantra.

If you google i5 4460, there are no mentions of devil canyon.
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post #26 of 36
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Do not waste money on a Nvidia 660 for $100

Get a cheaper and faster 7950
In the UK used 7950's are around £125 - £150 + shipping, this GTX 660 is £80.
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Not that I am aware of.

I am like 99% sure that intel did not release chips like these under the devil canyons mantra.

If you google i5 4460, there are no mentions of devil canyon.
Seems to be part of the refresh.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-haswell-refresh.html
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In the UK used 7950's are around £125 - £150 + shipping, this GTX 660 is £80.
Seems to be part of the refresh.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-haswell-refresh.html

refresh is one thing and devils canyon is another.

Devil canyon chips in particular are supposed to have the new IHS interface and the extra little capacitors.

In any case, the argument is pointless because there is a bios update for 8 series chips to support 9 series CPUs.

http://thepcenthusiast.com/list-of-8-series-motherboards-compatible-with-intel-devils-canyon/
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post #28 of 36
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refresh is one thing and devils canyon is another.

Devil canyon chips in particular are supposed to have the new IHS interface and the extra little capacitors.

In any case, the argument is pointless because there is a bios update for 8 series chips to support 9 series CPUs.

http://thepcenthusiast.com/list-of-8-series-motherboards-compatible-with-intel-devils-canyon/
I would prefer to avoid flashing the BIOS if at all possible, if something goes wrong it's not my computer that's broken and he wouldn't feel able/comfortable doing it himself.
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I would prefer to avoid flashing the BIOS if at all possible, if something goes wrong it's not my computer that's broken and he wouldn't feel able/comfortable doing it himself.

Uhhhh wat?

No flashing the bios is what I would consider to be common practice when building a computer.

You never know what kind of old crappy bios might be on the mobo.
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post #30 of 36
Came across your thread randomly today and thought I'd give my two cents.

First off, It seems strange that you guys have had bad experiences with gigabyte boards, as myself and many other have had great experience and have always felt that they are great quality boards. Honestly gigabyte boards tend to be more feature rich compared to asus and asrock, and better priced than asus boards more often to none. Although there is nothing wrong with asrock who also make some quality boards at good prices, but at the low end you are building you don't need an amazing board as it won't be much of a bottleneck.

Moving onto cpu. Personally I am a bit on an intel fanboy, so I will always recommend an intel cpu. they may be a little more costly, but they will seriously perform better in gaming over AMD almost anyday. May I recommend the 4590 as it helps to keep the price down, and I see no reason as to why your friend would need much more than that.

The graphics card is average, but I guess if you are getting it reasonably cheap then it should be fine. But in terms of a first pc build, AMD do actually offer great performing cards for the price with cards such as 270x's and 280's. It just depends if you are keeping on budget.

Ram. the difference between having 4gb and 8gb is surprisingly large, and for any gamer I cannot stress enough how important having 8gb is. It can sometimes be the difference between having horrible stuttering and 60fps.

PSU, make sure you do the right calculations for the total wattage output of the PC under full load and ensure the PSU you are buying has enough headroom to be comfortable. You don't want any fires now.

Hard drive. Yes an SSD is great, but for a budget build there is no point getting a single 120gb SSD, and having no room for games just to get better boot and program startup times. Using a 1TB drive should be fine as long as you make sure to keep the startup programs to a minimum and keep any unnecessary files/ clutter to a minimum, then windows 7 should work fine.

Hope some of this helps.
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