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It was also a BD player when standalone BD players cost $1000.

Who buys BRays now. Physical media is dead. Back then BRay was just something fancy with no real need for it.
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I'd like to see the claims from a legit company, not a backwashing engine user.

I agree. Destiny and TLOU on my PS4 have literally never had a single performance issue. I've yet to see a frame rate drop on either after putting in 100+ hours.
Coming from Ubisoft I think I'll take this with a truck load of salt.
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So if these new consoles are only able to really pull off 720P, does that mean the PS3 & 360 were really running at a lower resolution that 720P

Correct, they were at about 540p in most cases... Few games might have gone to 720
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Who buys BRays now. Physical media is dead. Back then BRay was just something fancy with no real need for it.
people who appreciate uncompressed audio and video
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I agree. Destiny and TLOU on my PS4 have literally never had a single performance issue. I've yet to see a frame rate drop on either after putting in 100+ hours.
Coming from Ubisoft I think I'll take this with a truck load of salt.

Throw in AI, large player count, draw distance, etc and that changes. I'm enjoying my ps4 but it's easy to tell what had to be cut out of these games to get them to run at the detail they're at (Infamous, Killzone, etc). I was once again fooled by the hype of the new consoles bringing about better games but once again progression is held back due to the weak apu. I like graphics but I want Far Cry/Crysis type of AI and environmental detail and huge populations in lively city locales. /Dream
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Throw in AI, large player count, draw distance, etc and that changes. I'm enjoying my ps4 but it's easy to tell what had to be cut out of these games to get them to run at the detail they're at (Infamous, Killzone, etc). I was once again fooled by the hype of the new consoles bringing about better games but once again progression is held back due to the weak apu. I like graphics but I want Far Cry/Crysis type of AI and environmental detail and huge populations in lively city locales. /Dream

True, I've been thinking FC4 might have some issues with the type of environment it uses. Very large areas filled with dense foliage and AI being spread out could cause some performance issues.
At least they're doing better with AI than Forza 5 on X1...2D crowd. redface.gif
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Who buys BRays now. Physical media is dead. Back then BRay was just something fancy with no real need for it.
Ok? BD players were still $1000 back then. Until you build a time machine that point is still relevant.
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I think this is an issue largely specific to Assassins Creed. Few games have this mixture of NPC quantity and NPC AI. If anybody remembers ACIII, Boston was a complete slideshow even on decent/overclocked desktop processors. The launch games showed that good looking games can exist for the new consoles, but it seems the level of features and detail the Unity devs are going for is too tall an order (open world, lots of AI, high-res textures, complicated pathing mechanics, and probably a whole host of new graphical technologies). Either way, we should probably just put down the pitchforks until the game is released--I'm sure it will play just fine on PC.
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Yea they do, take a look here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Example of CoD resolutions:
Call of Duty: Black Ops = 960x544 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 = 880x720 (dynamic? Instances of 832x624..., post-AA)
Call of Duty: Ghosts = 928x600 ? (no AA? broken?)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Wow, and I remember how incredible I thought the PS3 and 360 looked 7-8 years ago! If you looked on the back of a lot of 360 games ,they said 1080P on them. Talk about false advertising!
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True, I've been thinking FC4 might have some issues with the type of environment it uses. Very large areas filled with dense foliage and AI being spread out could cause some performance issues.
At least they're doing better with AI than Forza 5 on X1...2D crowd. redface.gif

Honestly AI could be handled by HSA because of the GCN cores. Like how games were programmed with consoles originally... OH WAIT UBISOFT STILL THINKS THIS IS A PC!
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