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Ok? BD players were still $1000 back then. Until you build a time machine that point is still relevant.
You're right .Blue ray never really caught on. DVD's still out sell them. I remember buying the PS3 thinking it was a deal at What was it? $600? for the 60 GB & $500 for the 20GB ,as standalone Blu ray players were $1000 at that time! Meanwhile I have bought maybe like 4 Blu rays. I know "The Dark Knight" is one I bought.Can't remember the others.
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Wow, and I remember how incredible I thought the PS3 and 360 looked 7-8 years ago! If you looked on the back of a lot of 360 games ,they said 1080P on them. Talk about false advertising!
The console did output 1080P just it was scaled up before output thus not really 1080P but the same amount of pixels as 1080P.
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The console did output 1080P just it was scaled up before output thus not really 1080P but the same amount of pixels as 1080P.

Exactly. Almost all games on the last gen were rendered pretty low, and then up scaled to 720p or 1080p.

One thing people seem to forget is that even tho these new console are not on par with PC's, they are pretty far ahead of the last gen. We are talking about rendering at 900p instead of 1080p. When you play on a tv, that really isn't that serious.
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Wasn't it always that a console was superior or equal to a high end gaming pc at launch and then the it wpuld get surpassed not long after?

Wasn't this the case with the PS2..PS3..XBOX..360?

What went wrong with the PS4/ONE?

the technological improvements of pc hardware in the last gens life span made pc gaming FAR superior to anything you could buy in some 500 dollar box that was cobbled together.

i am positive you could build a 500 dollar computer using the free preview of windows 10 and get superior performance than some rickety old console.
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Pentium 3 topped out at 1.4GHz so not really. Also we are talking 8 cores the strength of about half the IPC of Haswell linear scaling gets you an i5 in raw performance even with that not being the case it should be plenty.

So let's blame it on Ubisoft for it's inability to make an optimized game and call it a day.

Technically the Pentium III topped out at 1.0 Ghz, and Intel announced a 1.13Ghz variant that was never shipped in mass.

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Technically the Pentium III topped out at 1.0 Ghz, and Intel announced a 1.13Ghz variant that was never shipped in mass.

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Exactly. Almost all games on the last gen were rendered pretty low, and then up scaled to 720p or 1080p.

One thing people seem to forget is that even tho these new console are not on par with PC's, they are pretty far ahead of the last gen. We are talking about rendering at 900p instead of 1080p. When you play on a tv, that really isn't that serious.

it is though. spending £450 - £500 or $500 whatever your currency is on a console that can manage the PC equivalent of 1600 x 900 resolution graphics at 30fps isn't good. It isn't good because that cap is the cap we have to bear on PC because consoles hold back PC's.

But they can easily run 4k @ 30fps on the new consoles its just that it will be most likely be 4k Frogger
Edited by Pip Boy - 10/28/14 at 11:32am
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If PS3/Xbox 360 where so amazing how come Crysis 1 was no developed for them?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/381012642309

That was a limited release for servers, and a company had to buy something around 1,000 of them each to get them. They weren't mass produced as far as I am aware.

Although, their existence does technically mean I was technically wrong. So I shall revert back to the "mass" part of it!

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I don't believe anything Ubisoft says. A lot of developers have had a lot more than a 1-2 fps difference between the PS4 and the Xbone. Of course I just game on PC, so I can ignore these underpowered consoles that Microsoft and Sony released. The only think I do buy that this guy is selling is that these consoles are already obsolete.
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